[Chapter-delegates] Chapter advice on opening the delegates list

[Dave Burstein]

Hi

Ted is right that the people on the list wanted it to be private. Given how
many people are on the list, there are no secrets. When the issue came up,
several spoke strongly about their preference to not be open.

If I remember correctly, the issue came up because I wanted to quote
something the CEO said on the list. I disagreed but went along because
there was an apparent majority.

To move forward, let's follow Ted's suggestion that the chapters, all
represented here, review our desires. My opinion is that with so many on
the list, it is de facto accessible whatever the setting. So I think we
should be open.

If any still feel strongly, please speak up. Then the Chapters committee
should make a plan.

Dave




On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 4:15 AM Ted Hardie via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
> One of the items in your recent advice to the board was that the Chapter's
> delegate list "should be opened to all chapter members as observers (view
> only – not allowed to post) in order to
>
> enhance transparency and understanding of ongoing discussions concerning
> ISOC
>
> chapters."
>
> The board asked the staff for the history here.  According to what we
> found,  the list was originally created in 2005 to enable then-current
> Internet Society Chapter leaders to get information relevant to their
> Chapter, to their leadership positions and as a place for them to discuss
> and share issues pertinent to the Internet Society Chapter community.  The
> archive was private to list members on its creation, but it was made open
> in 2009 for reasons which are not recorded.  When that was noted in 2020,
> the open nature of the archives was a surprise to folks on the list, and
> the archives were limited again.  Christine Saegesser then issued a poll
> (see
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/2020-July/022153.html)
> to assess the preference of the community for open or closed archives.
> Apparently only 30 of the about 800 or so people eligible to respond took
> the opportunity to do so, and of those 20 recommended the archives be
> closed and the list restricted to current leaders.  That's the decision
> that was implemented.
>
> None of these actions were the results of actions by the board, and there
> seems to be no reason to require the board to act to change them.  If the
> ChAC wants to make this change it can use its own procedures to make the
> new decision and then request the staff to update the list if desired.
> Your staff contacts will be able to discuss the alternatives with you,
> Note that there will be some administrative overhead in making any related
> change.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ted Hardie
>
> for the Board
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