[Chapter-delegates] Clarification from inSIG Consortium
borka at e5.ijs.si
borka at e5.ijs.si
Sat Oct 5 20:33:53 PDT 2024
Please moove this discussion to an internal list.
Regards,
Borka
On Sat, 5 Oct 2024, Amrita Choudhury via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> We absolutely agree with you that it is an internal discussion of ISOC
> Bengaluru. That's why we never posted here in ISOC mailing list.
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> The mail which has been forwarded in this list is from InsiG alumni mailing
> list (without any consent from that list.)
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> Apologies for this inconvenience.
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> Regards
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> Amrita
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> On Sat, 5 Oct 2024, 17:20 Christopher Hawker, <chris at thesysadmin.au> wrote:
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> Sheikh, Amrita, et al.
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> It may be more appropriate to discuss any grievances off-list,
> and/or in consultation with the relevant chapter support team
> from ISOC.
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> In my view, it is not the right place, nor appropriate, to
> discuss any grievances/conflict on the Chapter Delegates list.
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> Regards,
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> Christopher Hawker
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> Chapter Delegate – Australia (ISOC-AU)
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> From: Chapter-delegates
> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> On Behalf Of Sheikh
> Raashid Javid via Chapter-delegates
> Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2024 9:32 PM
> To: Amrita Choudhury <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>
> Cc: insig-alumni at googlegroups.com;
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Clarification from inSIG
> Consortium
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> Hi Amrita,
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> Thanks for writing a detailed mail, since you have taken your
> precious time to compose these lines, so I think it's important for me
> to reply these points with my own clarification
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> I am happy to share that the ISOC Bengaluru chapter has finally
> reached me and accepted my resignation, they don't want me to discuss
> this issue further as they might take it utmost seriously on speaking
> the truth.
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> Please try to understand that I am not dragging the name of inSIG but
> I failed to understand how inSIG works.
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> 1. As InSIG is an independent event, but the main organizer was the
> Bengaluru chapter this time, since you mentioned that inSIG has
> its own rules, can you please share a link as a reference so that
> we can read these inSIG rules.
> 2. I can understand that inSIG is a closed event, that is the reason
> I also already applied through a proper procedure, may I know on
> what basis my application got rejected or at least what is the
> criteria or procedure you follow to select attendees.
> 3. I have been an active member that is one of the reasons for me
> being elected as a VP; moreover, I have already conducted few
> events and always involved myself in discussions and planning
> towards this event.
> 4. The main reason for electing someone as a chapter leader is
> because he has been actively engaged and deserves to be a part of
> the committee.
> 5. Since you mentioned Dr Govind as an active member and not the
> chapter leader, then he should have been elected as a VP by the
> Bengaluru chapter members, but they thought that my contribution
> is more.
> 6. While going through past inSIG events, I feel only few new faces
> are given a chance as there are some people who have managed to be
> a part of most of the previous events.
> 7. Just to clarify, I didn't come at the last moment to be included
> as a speaker or an organizer for this event, it's being
> miscommunicated to you. Being a VP, when I came to know that I was
> not allowed to attend this event conducted by the Benguluru
> chapter, I gave them an option that they can use me as a speaker
> where I can deliver free talks. Otherwise, I have been a certified
> trainer for the last 10 years, being certified by Microsoft,
> EC-Council, NSD, so I never deliver free talks anywhere.
> Indirectly I am also being dis-serviced as I have always worked
> towards this event to get it organized successfully
> 8. if a speaker has an experience and is willing to speak free in
> your future events(even if he is an elected member or a part of
> coordinating committee), please give him a chance it can save at
> least save you some funds especially if you have limited budget
> 9. Since I was elected as a VP of ISOC India Bengaluru Chapter on the
> basis of being the most active member of the chapter, based on
> your logic I should have been the first person selected to be a
> part of inSIG 2024.
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> At last I feel quite disappointed because ISOC Bengaluru chapter feels
> that I am damaging their reputation where they treat this with utmost
> seriousness and inSIG thinks that I am dragging them unnecessarily in
> this mailing list.
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> I didn't want to damage the reputation of the Bengaluru chapter or
> drag inSIG in this, since I felt that there is some mis-management and
> the roles are not properly defined due to which limited funds get
> misused.
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> This is my last email, wishing you all the best with your working
> towards free internet and free speech
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> I am going to filter these mails and any reply will go to spam, as I
> have already resigned from my position
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> regards,
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> On Sat, 5 Oct, 2024, 11:13 am Amrita Choudhury,
> <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear Alumni,
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> This is with reference to the mail sent by the Vice Chair of
> ISOC Bengaluru Chapter a few days back. Seeing a mail sent to
> the Alumni where the name of inSIG is being dragged in without
> understanding how inSIG works, we felt we should clarify our
> position.
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> On behalf of the inSIG Coordination Committee, we wish to
> clarify a few things:
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> 1. inSIG is an independent event organised by 7 ISOC India
> Chapters. It has its own rules and is not an Internet Society
> event.
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> 2. inSIG is a closed event where only fellows selected
> through a procedure can attend. It is not an open walk-in event
> where any one can come in (https://insig.in/fellowship-2024/ )
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> 3. The planning and work of inSIG goes on for a minimum
> 7-8 months and only active members who are working reflect on
> the website (https://insig.in/insig-2024-committees/ )
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> 4. Being a Chapter leader does not mean their names will
> be reflected on any of the committees if the person has not been
> actively engaged.
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> 5. We have many people in the Coordinating committee who
> are not Chapter leaders (Anupam, Dr. Govind etc as examples)
> but actively contributing.
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> 6. While we are all for having new people engage
> positively and proactively. For example, this year we also had 3
> members from the YIGF India leadership team working actively
> with the coordination committee (Ihita, Sameer and Barkha). In
> fact many of the committee member listed are inSIG Alumni's.
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> 7. However, if any person comes at the last moment and
> demands to be included and their name to be reflected as an
> organiser or wants to be made a speaker, we believe it is a
> disservice to the workers who for months have been working to
> get the event successfully organised.
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> 8. Infact none of the inSIG coordinating committee
> members (except in 1 session) were speakers at inSIG and someone
> demanding the right to speak since "elected" as a leader is not
> an approach we endorse.
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> 9. Finally and most importantly, we belive it is an ISOC
> Bengaluru chapters internal affairs and the inSIG consortium
> would not want to be dragged itnto it or discussed in this
> mailing list.
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> Hope this clarifies our position.
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> Regards,
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> On behalf of inSIG Coordination Committee
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> Amrita
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