[Chapter-delegates] Clarification from inSIG Consortium

Sat Oct 5 04:50:10 PDT 2024

Sheikh, Amrita, et al.

It may be more appropriate to discuss any grievances off-list, and/or in consultation with the relevant chapter support team from ISOC.

In my view, it is not the right place, nor appropriate, to discuss any grievances/conflict on the Chapter Delegates list.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker
Chapter Delegate – Australia (ISOC-AU)

From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> On Behalf Of Sheikh Raashid Javid via Chapter-delegates
Sent: Saturday, 5 October 2024 9:32 PM
To: Amrita Choudhury <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>
Cc: insig-alumni at googlegroups.com; chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Clarification from inSIG Consortium

Hi Amrita,

 Thanks for writing a detailed mail, since you have taken your precious time to compose these lines, so I think it's important for me to reply these points with my own clarification

I am happy to share that the ISOC Bengaluru chapter has finally reached me and accepted my resignation, they don't want me to discuss this issue further as they might take it utmost seriously on speaking the truth.

Please try to understand that I am not dragging the name of inSIG but I failed to understand how inSIG works.

  1.  As InSIG is an independent event, but the main organizer was the Bengaluru chapter this time, since you mentioned that inSIG has its own rules, can you please share a link as a reference so that we can read these inSIG rules.
  2.  I can understand that inSIG is a closed event, that is the reason I also already applied through a proper procedure, may I know on what basis my application got rejected or at least what is the criteria or procedure you follow to select attendees.
  3.  I have been an active member that is one of the reasons for me being elected as a VP; moreover, I have already conducted few events and always involved myself in discussions and planning towards this event.
  4.  The main reason for electing someone as a chapter leader is because he has been actively engaged and deserves to be a part of the committee.
  5.  Since you mentioned Dr Govind as an active member and not the chapter leader, then he should have been elected as a VP by the Bengaluru chapter members, but they thought that my contribution is more.
  6.  While going through past inSIG events, I feel only few new faces are given a chance as there are some people who have managed to be a part of most of the previous events.
  7.  Just to clarify, I didn't come at the last moment to be included as a speaker or an organizer for this event, it's being miscommunicated to you. Being a VP, when I came to know that I was not allowed to attend this event conducted by the Benguluru chapter, I gave them an option that they can use me as a speaker where I can deliver free talks. Otherwise, I have been a certified trainer for the last 10 years, being certified by Microsoft, EC-Council, NSD, so I never deliver free talks anywhere. Indirectly I am also being dis-serviced as I have always worked towards this event to get it organized successfully
  8.  if a speaker has an experience and is willing to speak free in your future events(even if he is an elected member or a part of coordinating committee), please give him a chance it can save at least save you some funds especially if you have limited budget
  9.  Since I was elected as a VP of ISOC India Bengaluru Chapter on the basis of being the most active member of the chapter, based on your logic I should have been the first person selected to be a part of inSIG 2024.

At last I feel quite disappointed because ISOC Bengaluru chapter feels that I am damaging their reputation where they treat this with utmost seriousness and inSIG thinks that I am dragging them unnecessarily in this mailing list.

I didn't want to damage the reputation of the Bengaluru chapter or drag inSIG in this, since I felt that there is some mis-management and the roles are not properly defined due to which limited funds get misused.

This is my last email, wishing you all the best with your working towards free internet and free speech

I am going to filter these mails and any reply will go to spam, as I have already resigned from my position

regards,
Sheikh

On Sat, 5 Oct, 2024, 11:13 am Amrita Choudhury, <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com<mailto:amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Alumni,

This is with reference to the mail sent by the Vice Chair of ISOC Bengaluru Chapter a few days back. Seeing  a mail sent to the Alumni where the name of inSIG is being dragged in without understanding how inSIG works, we felt we should clarify our position.

On behalf of the inSIG Coordination Committee, we wish to clarify a few things:

1.       inSIG is an independent event organised by 7 ISOC India Chapters. It has its own rules and is not an Internet Society event.
2.       inSIG is a closed event where only fellows selected through a procedure can attend. It is not an open walk-in event where any one can come in (https://insig.in/fellowship-2024/ )
3.       The planning and work of inSIG goes on for a minimum 7-8 months and only active members who are working reflect on the website (https://insig.in/insig-2024-committees/ )
4.       Being a Chapter leader does not mean their names will be reflected on any of the committees if the person has not been actively engaged.
5.       We have many people in the Coordinating committee who are not Chapter leaders (Anupam, Dr. Govind etc as examples)  but actively contributing.
6.       While we are all for having new people engage positively and proactively. For example, this year we also had 3 members from the YIGF India  leadership team working actively with the coordination committee (Ihita, Sameer and Barkha).  In fact many of the committee member listed are  inSIG Alumni's.
7.       However, if any person comes at the  last moment and demands to be included and their name to be reflected as an organiser or wants to be made a speaker, we believe it is a disservice to the workers who for months have been working to get the event successfully organised.
8.        Infact none of the inSIG coordinating committee members (except in 1 session) were speakers at inSIG and someone demanding the right to speak since "elected" as a leader is not an approach we endorse.
9.       Finally and most importantly, we belive it is an ISOC Bengaluru chapters internal affairs and the inSIG consortium would not want to be dragged itnto it or discussed in this mailing list.
Hope this clarifies our position.

Regards,

On behalf of inSIG Coordination Committee

Amrita
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