[Chapter-delegates] ISOC LIVE - the reports of its death are exaggerated, but..

[Charles Mok (gmail)]

Dear all,

This discussion is healthy and beneficial to the organization. The
management and the board need to hear, acknowledge, respect and respond to
voices from the community with humility. The strong reaction in support of
Joly also is a strong justification for his continued loyalty, service and
dedication to ISOC. While I echo what my fellow trustees Luis and Caleb
have said about the roles of the trustees in relation to the management and
its work and decisions, what has been expressed so far in this thread, I
personally believe, should warrant ISOC management and board to revisit
such decisions over staffing and cost-saving for the current case and any
future situations. We must do better. The Internet is for everyone, and
ISOC is for everyone too, and that, I believe, must begin from listening.
Your views expressed will not be in vain, because they have enabled and
empowered us to make corrections where they need to be made.

Thank you,
Charles Mok
Trustee, ISOC and fellow volunteer



On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 7:33 AM Joel Okomoli via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Hi Olivier,
>
> +1, Data does not lie!
>
> The Internet started as a loss making entity, if the founders had this
> profit mindset the world would still be in stone age.
>
> And why is our Father Vint Cerf offering to pay for this service on behalf
> of the community? Your guess is as good as mine.
>
> @Caleb Ogundele Trustee thanks for your reply, it was not literal though.
> Respond to the other issues.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joel
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 5:24 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via
> Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 12/03/2024 13:49, Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 02:05:15PM +0100, Emmanuel Vitus wrote:
>>
>> everything, it seems like there's a pretty strong reaction from the
>> community about the decision and how it was made. I'm really keen to
>> understand if you/staff get any thoughts from the folks who use Joly's
>> service the most or from any of the community leaders before the
>> termination of the agreement?
>>
>>
>> The evaluation was on the basis of the consumption of the streams.  I
>> understand that there are people who feel these streams are useful, but the
>> _actual results_ do not bear those impressions out.  If, however,
>> chapters believe the streams are useful anyway, they are in a position to
>> use their resources to continue supporting them.
>>
>>
>> As you know, impact on Social Media is about subscribers. It is not about
>> individual videos. The number of people that get notified of activities on
>> a channel is directly linked to the number of followers/subscribers it has.
>> That's what makes influencers "important".
>>
>> isoc.live main LiveStream Channel - 24K followers:
>>
>>
>>
>> Compare with:
>>
>> - Internet Society YouTube 7.1K subscribers:
>>
>>
>> - IETF YouTube 4.4k subscribers:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - NDSS YouTube 2.47k subscribers:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd say you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater, shutting down
>> ISOC's largest distribution channel so far, by a huge magnitude.
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
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