[Chapter-delegates] The results of the recent polls regarding two issues from the Puerto Rico Chapter and the proposed test for transmission to the BoT.

Sat Jul 6 08:40:05 PDT 2024

It may also be desirable to verify if the vote information and link were
mailed to the current President/ voting delegates. In other words, is the
voter database up-to-date? Also, are Chapers reached by more than one
communication channel, for instance, by alternate email addresses / phone /
whatsapp in addition to email?

On Sat, 6 Jul, 2024, 20:37 Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates,
<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Dear Frédéric,
>
> thanks for your kind follow-up. Whilst I do not believe we are engaging in
> politics, the aim of the transparency was to see whether all votes were
> taken into account by the system.
> A fallback scenario would be to just publish the list of Chapters who have
> voted without publishing their actual vote, so Chapter Chairs can check
> that their Chapter AC delegate has cast their vote and the vote has been
> taken into account. That's quite basic and I do not think will lead to the
> horse trading which you allude to in your email.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 05/07/2024 22:24, Frédéric Taes wrote:
>
> Dear Olivier, Cheryl and all,
>
>
>
> Thank you, Cheryl, for the good organization. It’s a pity that only about
> the half of chapters voted, despite reminders. :-(
>
> I understand the request from Olivier about transparency, however I would
> find abnormal to disclose who voted on what (or didn’t) for two reasons:
>
>
>
>    1. It should have to be communicated beforehand that content of votes
>    would be made public, and not after the votes;
>    the principle should be privacy by default and, if disclosed, properly
>    communicated beforehand and/or with consent;
>
>    2. What’s the purpose of this level of transparency? Which actions
>    would you take if you see that chapter X didn’t voted, or voted against
>    your proposal?
>    There’s a risk to misuse the info to make pressure or to start
>    political alliances; a fictive example: your UK chapter will vote for my
>    proposal on topic X (and I’ll check you did!), and in return my chapter
>    would vote UK proposal on another topic (even if we disagree), OK? ;-)
>
>
>
> Additional remarks:
>
>
>
>    - what about Special Interest Groups (SIG)? They have no right to
>    vote, no right to have their voice heard, only observer’s role. I don’t
>    find this normal.
>
>
>
>    - how to interpret the absence of vote? Is it saying the topic is not
>    important, like saying no? I’m not sure. My guess: mailing lists are not
>    effective or not read, important messages are lost in the mass or marked as
>    spam,… I would suggest a dedicated “read-only” channel for votes and
>    important communications, and discussions in another channel.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Frédéric.
>
>
>
> PS to Olivier and Eduardo: I well voted in name of Belgium Chapter, and
> not against any proposal. :-)  I love community spirit    (and yes I don’t
> like politics).
>
>
>
> *De : *Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>
> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> au nom de Olivier MJ
> Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Répondre à : *Olivier Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> <ocl at gih.com>
> *Date : *vendredi 5 juillet 2024 à 20:16
> *À : *Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com> <langdonorr at gmail.com>,
> <0F9Dn000000QayiKAC at post.dn-71ceimaa.usa576.chatter.salesforce.com>
> <0F9Dn000000QayiKAC at post.dn-71ceimaa.usa576.chatter.salesforce.com>, ISOC
> Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> *Objet : *Re: [Chapter-delegates] The results of the recent polls
> regarding two issues from the Puerto Rico Chapter and the proposed test for
> transmission to the BoT.
>
>
>
> Dear Cheryl,
>
> thank you for forwarding this information and following up on these polls.
> In the interest of transparency would you please forward the results
> showing chapters having voted and their vote? I note that nowhere in the
> Chapter AC rules is there any mention of consensus calls needing to be
> confidential.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 05/07/2024 00:28, Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>
> The message you find attached outlines the procedures and results of the
> poll conducted by the Chapters Advisory Council (ChAC) of the Internet
> Society, conducted via Survey Monkey between June 17th and July 1st, and
> aimed to gather support for two proposals from the Puerto Rico Chapter
> among the 101 Chapters with voting rights. The first proposal was to open
> the Chapter Delegate email list to all Chapter Members as observers, while
> the second was to reinstate funding for the ISOC LIVE video and archiving
> services.
>
> The results showed that while a majority of responding Chapters supported
> both proposals, the required level of support for approval required by the
> ChAC Rules and Procedures for sending advice to the Board of Trustees still
> needs to be reached. Specifically, 66.04% voted in favour of the first
> proposal, and for the second, 88.68% voted in favour. However, due to the
> rules requiring a majority of all eligible Chapters to vote 'yes,' the
> proposals still need to pass.
>
> Despite the ChAC being unable to send “formal advice” to the Board of
> Trustees, the ChAC Steering Committee is taking a proactive step. We
> propose sending a “recommendation” to the BoT regarding the two proposals
> since their approval was clear among the poll respondents.
>
> I've included more details in the attached PDF. If you need additional
> information or access to the specific results and discussions, we have also
> included below reference links to summaries and presentations available on
> Box.com.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Cheryl Langdon-Orr*,
>
> Chair 2024 of the ChAC -SC
>
>
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