[Chapter-delegates] Internet Pulse and data sources

[Ryan Polk]

Hi Hank,

Thanks for raising the question!

It is important to note that both MANRS and Pulse do not collect their own data. Instead, they collect data from validated, credible third parties like CAIDA, APNIC labs etc.

It also is worth noting that Pulse does use MANRS as a data source. For instance, it uses the readiness data from the MANRS Observatory as input on its Internet Resiliency Index. But, as you observed, Pulse is not using the MANRS ROA coverage statistics for now. This is due to some practical and legacy reasons, such as that the ROA coverage statistics on Pulse predate the MANRS stats.

The Pulse team is always looking for feedback on ways to improve Pulse, including ideas about data sources, usability issues, errors, or new feature requests. Please feel free to share your feedback using this form<https://app.smartsheet.com/b/form/408529b0a6c042ed8362ff49bd0fe624> or reach out to us to chat more about this.

Thanks again,

Ryan Polk
Internet Society


From: Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> on behalf of Hank Nussbacher via Chapter-delegates <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Date: Monday, July 1, 2024 at 10:20 AM
To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>, Pulse <pulse at isoc.org>
Cc: Chapter Delegates <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, ISOC England <contact at isoc-e.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Pulse and data sources
On 08/03/2024 15:43, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond via Chapter-delegates wrote:

I was recently going over the Internet Society Pulse data and remembered
Olivier's posting from a few months ago:
>
>
> 3.4 MANRS
> ISOC made a total divestment of its MANRS project to a US
> not-for-profit, The Global Cyber Alliance (GCA) - and Andrew's
> response was that this was needed because "ISOC is a good incubator
> but terrible at running long term projects".
>
> 3.4.1 Why was this divestiture effected given that this was a
> successful project which comforted the ISOC brand as being pertinent?
>
> 3.4.2 Was a risk assessment done prior to moving MANRS elsewhere to an
> organisation so close to law enforcement as to ensuring that the
> Internet Society goals and principles in this important area remain at
> the top of the routing security agenda?
>
> 3.4.3 By what criteria was the GCA chosen as an suitable organisation
> to run the MANRS project? Were there conditions imposed on Goals?
>
> 3.4.4 Are there Performance Agreements (SLAs) in place for the ongoing
> conditional funding of the GCA?
> 3.4.4.1 If yes, are there clauses to cancel the GCA Secretarial and
> Operational duties, should it fail in its SLAs?


https://pulse.internetsociety.org/reports-faq

and noticed that for Routing Security Adoption and Routing Security
Coverage for IPv4 and Routing Security Coverage for IPv6,

ISOC uses data from APNIC rather than from their own collected MANRS data:

https://observatory.manrs.org/#/roas/

Is there a reason for that?


Thanks,

Hank


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