[Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters’ action

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Wed Apr 10 05:59:04 PDT 2024


Dear Cheryl,

thank you for explaining the function of the Chapter Advisory Council.

I would add a few more thing:
For information to others here, the Chapter Advisory Council's summary 
description is on: 
https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/

Its function is defined by the Charter published on 
https://www.internetsociety.org/chapters/chapters-advisory-council/charter/

I should add, having been amongst the Chapters that proposed the Chapter 
AC and drafted the Charter, that the Chapter AC is not an exclusive 
channel for all conversations between the President & CEO and Board of 
Trustees of the Internet Society and the Chapters. Rather it serves as a 
facilitator to help with communication and provide clarity over what 
Chapters are asking for when sometimes there are mixed messages coming 
from Chapters. So it is an additional channel - and a very strong one 
indeed as it is able to work out a consensus amongst Chapters on major 
issues.

As such, I hope that you and your Steering Committee have taken note of 
the points which have been discussed here and are putting together a 
working plan on how to resolve these with the President, CEO and Board. 
Some significant concerns have been expressed, not by isolated voices 
but by many Chapters on several points, so they cannot be dropped in 
between the floorboards.

Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 02/04/2024 03:31, Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis,  in addition to email 
> lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the 
> ChAC as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a 
> year (once a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs 
> at the BoT meeting immediately after that plenary session, (often only 
> days later in fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time 
> critical can and would be transmitted intersessional to the calendar 
> cadence of BoT gatherings...
>
> Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only 
> any ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed, 
> reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings  (at 
> least since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system 
> where any matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for 
> between meeting note and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC 
> Reps box note where any suggestions for topics and activities for 
> future ChAC plenaries can be proposed is in operation.
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> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates 
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>     Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All,
>
>     Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right
>     questions to ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we
>     need and what is possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow
>     lane, how many meetings the ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes
>     the information to get to the Board ? If able, how the board may
>     ask for some action and finally how long it takes some change to
>     happen ? That is something we have not figured out how to
>     overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always
>     around the same place. That’s why we need more strategy which
>     needs to be figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of
>     leadership ? I have the feeling that if we do not reflect we wont
>     be building that future we would like to be at.
>
>     Let’s keep the discussion.
>
>     Sincerely,
>
>     Luis
>
>
>     Prof. Luis M Martínez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor
>     and researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of
>     the Board of Trustees Internet Society
>     On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates
>     <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote:
>>
>>     There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the
>>     Chapters too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and
>>     Chapter Enforcement was centralized.
>>
>>     WYn
>>
>>     On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>>
>>>     I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every
>>>     ICANN back in the day, organized by staff, and were happy
>>>     occasions. There used to be two per ICANN allowing for plenty of
>>>     lively discussion.
>>>
>>>     I have a few archived
>>>     ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/
>>>     ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/
>>>     ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/
>>>     ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/
>>>     ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/
>>>     ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/
>>>     ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/
>>>     ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/
>>>
>>>     Joly
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08 AM Osvaldo Larancuent via
>>>     Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>         Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special
>>>         real life event once a year for the Internet Society
>>>         community, addressing different issues based on an agenda,
>>>         is not an utopian dream, especially when that’s the rule on
>>>         other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF,
>>>         and so on.
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>
>>>         Osvaldo
>>>
>>>         ----
>>>
>>>         Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto
>>>         Chair
>>>
>>>         Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do)
>>>
>>>         https://isoc.do <https://isoc.do>
>>>
>>>         *De:* Chapter-delegates
>>>         <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> en nombre de
>>>         Pedro de Perdigão Lana via Chapter-delegates
>>>         <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>         *Fecha:* lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51 a. m.
>>>         *Para:* drhipo at me.com <drhipo at me.com>
>>>         *CC:* Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates
>>>         <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>         *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters’ action
>>>
>>>         Hi Luis,
>>>
>>>         Loved the suggestion!
>>>
>>>         I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate
>>>         event. Considering how much one could save with logistics,
>>>         maybe doing a short survey related to what events in
>>>         2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most present at and
>>>         trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters
>>>         reunion right before or after the larger event would work
>>>         well. If it is in their interest, ChAC could have a central
>>>         role in this. It seems interesting to also elaborate a
>>>         position document as a result - if that sounds good to
>>>         others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what
>>>         already happens in other summits and working groups: most of
>>>         the substantial work (definitions of common agendas and
>>>         concerns, etc.) would be made a few months before the actual
>>>         meeting (focusing on finalizing and confirming the text), so
>>>         we could then present it publicly.
>>>
>>>         Cordially,
>>>
>>>
>>>         *Pedro de Perdigão Lana
>>>         * Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>         <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>>         PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>         Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>,
>>>         ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>
>>>         This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s).
>>>         If received by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>
>>>         Em sáb., 30 de mar. de 2024 às 23:51, 66499 via
>>>         Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu:
>>>
>>>             Dear Members and Friends of ISOC,
>>>
>>>             During the last months, we have read many stories about
>>>             the tools we need to build a better Internet for
>>>             everyone, not just the software and resources but
>>>             policies that may future shape the organizations and
>>>             regions. Some discussions are happening at a national or
>>>             regional level, others organized by the staff that we
>>>             interact with. However, most is happening in the email
>>>             lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically
>>>             for long time. As a member of ISOC, I would,
>>>             respectfully, like to make a call to our 120+ chapters
>>>             to collectively think about how we can organize in the
>>>             short term a discussion about the issues that we face to
>>>             fulfill our mission -global, regional or national. Not a
>>>             meeting organized and conducted by Staff, not within
>>>             another organizations’ event, but by the Chapters and
>>>             their leadership with open participation. It may be an
>>>             utopia but we know that we are well capable of do it.
>>>
>>>             Sincerely,
>>>
>>>             Luis Martinez *
>>>             Member of the board of trustees ISOC
>>>             ISOC MX
>>>
>>>             PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don’t
>>>             know who may help me to display my name when writing to
>>>             the Chapter’s Delegate List.
>>>
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