[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: A call to chapters’ action

Mon Apr 1 23:48:15 PDT 2024

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From: Luis Martinez <hipouia at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Apr 1, 2024, 22:35
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters’ action
To: Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr at gmail.com>

Thanks Cheryl. Of course, I know how ChAC works. It is my duty to
understand many of the intricacies of ISOC. That is why I dared to open a
discussion that would lead us to reflection.

We have a strategic planning that is the result of a very long and
productive discussion within the whole organization. We are talking about a
six year term, where we need to grow, strengthen, defend, and protect the
Internet; and we -as a system- usually act with immediate explanations and
justifications. After that, we usually pretend everything is normal.
Strategically, it is very un-strategic to pursue long term objectives upon
well time-spaced short-term actions.

We all love to hear that everything is working as well-oiled machinery, but
without self-questioning we tend to forget the important few things that
make a difference. The people -us, the ones mentioned in our 2030 Strategy-
need to act, if not it will become dead-letter well before 2030. Without
compromise the institution -ISOC- can not provide the appropriate focused
resources.

Sincerely,

Luis

PS I am switching to my gmail account as I don't get used to my 66499 name
in the sender field.

On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 8:31 PM Cheryl Langdon-Orr via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Regarding your specific questions re ChAC Luis,  in addition to email
> lists and ChAC Reps being often active on the CH-delegates list, the ChAC
> as an entity meets, as a plenary (with all ChAC Reps) 4 times a year (once
> a calendar quarter) and the report/update to the BoT occurs at the BoT
> meeting immediately after that plenary session, (often only days later in
> fact), BUT of course anything urgent or time critical can and would be
> transmitted intersessional to the calendar cadence of BoT gatherings...
>
> Additionally, the ChAC Steering Committee meets monthly, and not only any
> ongoing transmitted to the BoT or urgent new issues are discussed,
> reviewed, and, if needed, action at these more recent meetings  (at least
> since the end of 2022) an 'always open 24x7' box note system where any
> matter for the attention of the ChAC can be raised for between meeting note
> and action; as well as a separate open to ChAC Reps box note where any
> suggestions for topics and activities for future ChAC plenaries can be
> proposed is in operation.
>
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> On Tue, 2 Apr 2024 at 12:55, 66499 via Chapter-delegates <
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Veni, Theo, Win, All,
>>
>> Thanks for your responses. Maybe we are not asking the right questions to
>> ourselves. What is the ISOC we imagine, the one we need and what is
>> possible to have ? Somehow we got in the slow lane, how many meetings the
>> ChAC has in a year ? How long it takes the information to get to the Board
>> ? If able, how the board may ask for some action and finally how long it
>> takes some change to happen ? That is something we have not figured out how
>> to overcome. We are getting speedy responses but that keeps us always
>> around the same place. That’s why we need more strategy which needs to be
>> figured out from collective thinking. Is it lack of leadership ? I have the
>> feeling that if we do not reflect we wont be building that future we would
>> like to be at.
>>
>> Let’s keep the discussion.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Luis
>>
>>
>> Prof. Luis M Martínez Cervantes, PhD, MSc, BScEE, MIEE Professor and
>> researcher Universidad Iberoamericana Mexico City Member of the Board of
>> Trustees Internet Society
>> On 1 Apr 2024 19:41 -0600, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>, wrote:
>>
>> There used to be regular Regional (in-person) meetings of the Chapters
>> too ... until the Regional Bureaus were dismantled and Chapter Enforcement
>> was centralized.
>>
>> WYn
>> On 2 Apr 2024 12:26 AM, Joly MacFie via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>
>>
>> I recall Chapters and members meetings used to happen at every ICANN back
>> in the day, organized by staff, and were happy occasions. There used to be
>> two per ICANN allowing for plenty of lively discussion.
>>
>> I have a few archived
>> ICANN 44 https://isoc.live/4047/
>> ICANN 46 https://isoc.live/5359/
>> ICANN 49 https://isoc.live/6454/
>> ICANN 50 Chapter workshop https://isoc.live/6762/
>> ICANN 50 https://isoc.live/6765/
>> ICANN 51 https://isoc.live/7095/
>> ICANN 52 https://isoc.live/7458/
>> ICANN 53 https://isoc.live/7847/
>>
>> Joly
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:08 AM Osvaldo Larancuent via Chapter-delegates <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Luis, we second with your proposal to establish a special real life
>>> event once a year for the Internet Society community, addressing different
>>> issues based on an agenda, is not an utopian dream, especially when that’s
>>> the rule on other technical communities, considering IETF, ICANN, IGF, and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Osvaldo
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>> Osvaldo I. Larancuent Cueto
>>> Chair
>>>
>>> Internet Society chapter Dominican Republic (isoc.do)
>>>
>>> https://isoc.do
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *De:* Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org> en
>>> nombre de Pedro de Perdigão Lana via Chapter-delegates <
>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> *Fecha:* lunes, 1 de abril de 2024, 8:51 a. m.
>>> *Para:* drhipo at me.com <drhipo at me.com>
>>> *CC:* Luis Martinez via Chapter-delegates <
>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A call to chapters’ action
>>>
>>> Hi Luis,
>>>
>>> Loved the suggestion!
>>>
>>> I'm just not sure about doing it as a totally separate event.
>>> Considering how much one could save with logistics, maybe doing a short
>>> survey related to what events in 2024/2025 chapter leaders will be the most
>>> present at and trying to create an opportunity for a hybrid Chapters
>>> reunion right before or after the larger event would work well. If it is in
>>> their interest, ChAC could have a central role in this. It seems
>>> interesting to also elaborate a position document as a result - if that
>>> sounds good to others, I'd suggest having a methodology similar to what
>>> already happens in other summits and working groups: most of the
>>> substantial work (definitions of common agendas and concerns, etc.) would
>>> be made a few months before the actual meeting (focusing on finalizing and
>>> confirming the text), so we could then present it publicly.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana* Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>,
>>> GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
>>> <https://isoc.org.br/> and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em sáb., 30 de mar. de 2024 às 23:51, 66499 via Chapter-delegates <
>>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Dear Members and Friends of ISOC,
>>>
>>> During the last months, we have read many stories about the tools we
>>> need to build a better Internet for everyone, not just the software and
>>> resources but policies that may future shape the organizations and regions.
>>> Some discussions are happening at a national or regional level, others
>>> organized by the staff that we interact with. However, most is happening in
>>> the email lists as we have been precluded of meeting physically for long
>>> time. As a member of ISOC, I would, respectfully, like to make a call to
>>> our 120+ chapters to collectively think about how we can organize in the
>>> short term a discussion about the issues that we face to fulfill our
>>> mission -global, regional or national. Not a meeting organized and
>>> conducted by Staff, not within another organizations’ event, but by the
>>> Chapters and their leadership with open participation. It may be an utopia
>>> but we know that we are well capable of do it.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Luis Martinez *
>>> Member of the board of trustees ISOC
>>> ISOC MX
>>>
>>> PS * By the way, 66499 is not my name. Still, I don’t know who may help
>>> me to display my name when writing to the Chapter’s Delegate List.
>>>
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