[Chapter-delegates] ISOC - CL : Updated Link: ISOC - CL : 2023 Chapter Leadership Program

Wed Mar 15 17:15:17 PDT 2023

Thank you for the updates Christine. That is indeed good news -- that Connect 
will soon be gone. One can hope that Fonteva will not carry-over the worst sins 
of Connect. Then again, the current AMS email is likewise a pain which is why we 
only use it when we have to (like once every 2 years for elections), and instead 
resort to alternatives such as GoogleGroups and various Messaging Apps.

Yes, the upcoming ChAC call next week would be a good time to discuss corporate 
messaging, the new AMS, etc. For messaging i believe the thing we have to avoid 
is mandating use of or restricting communications to a single "tool" such as 
Connect simply to justify (post hoc) the decision and expense of having such a 
tool in the first place.

See you next week,

WYn
Philippines

P.S.  Good to touch base and talk (even briefly) with ISOC staff at APRICOT the 
other week, too bad neither you nor Nick were there.

On 16 Mar 2023 4:28 AM, Christine Saegesser wrote:
> Hello Winthrop,
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I am sorry that this is a bit of a 
> frustrating experience right now. As part of the AMS transition, we will be 
> moving away from the engagement platform “Connect".  The functionality we 
> currently have in Connect will then be supported in Fonteva, our new AMS.
>
> I believe this may be a good moment to put together some guidelines as to 
> which communication tool will be used for what type of message going forward. 
> I’ll talk to the Chapters Advisory Council Steering Committee if this is 
> something we could work on together.
>
> Best,
>
> Christine
>
> *Christine Saegesser Baethge,* Sr. Director Chapters and Special Interest Groups
> saegesser at isoc.org | Twitter: ch_saebae
>
>
>> On 15 Mar 2023, at 13:44, Winthrop Yu via Chapter-delegates 
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for the heads-up Rama, the objective of getting as many Chapter 
>> Leaders as possible to sign-up for the course is a /good thing/. What i'm 
>> wondering then is, given that you want to encourage sign-ups, why send the 
>> links thru *Box*? That is a rather roundabout way of doing it.
>>
>> Also, if you're going for maximum reach, why not share this invitation to the 
>> Chapter Delegates on elists.isoc.org <http://elists.isoc.org>? Is there some 
>> policy that dictates use of *Connect* in lieu of the more straightforward 
>> elists?
>>
>> *Connect* has several problems, not least of which it tends to munge 
>> (mutilate!) and auto-truncate email messages (leaving out much of the thread 
>> and therefore context). Even the links you provided below are obfuscated when 
>> read in *Connect*'s full HTML. Plain text links are not only simple and 
>> straightforward, they are also a safety feature (obfuscated links being a 
>> favorite tactic of spammers and scammers). I am assuming that these links 
>> need not be private or confidential (the justification for *Box*), and thus 
>> need not be obfuscated by *Connect* or sent via *Box*.
>>
>> I hope we try to Keep It Simple, as even plain-text links sent to those 
>> unfamiliar with the ISOC Learn LMS can be difficult to follow. (I was a 
>> mentor at the launch of this "new" LMS, and even with clear links and a 
>> supplementary PDF FAQ, and hand-holding follow-up support, some of the new 
>> learners had difficulties).
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> WYn
>> Philippines
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2023 12:57 AM, Rama Rejman (staff) via Internet Society wrote:
>>> Hi Kennedy, The updated link I posted below that says 'click here' should 
>>> lead to a page with four zoom links, are you not seeing that when...
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>>> Hi Kennedy,
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>>>
>>> The updated link I posted below that says 'click here' should lead to a page 
>>> with four zoom links, are you not seeing that when you click it?
>>>
>>>
>>> -> *CLICK HERE for registration links: 
>>> isoc.box.com/s/sjfilxsn6ichayvqj5f2xcgiw48kawea 
>>> <https://isoc.box.com/s/sjfilxsn6ichayvqj5f2xcgiw48kawea>*
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>>> Here they are posted, just in case:
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>>> Session 1 registration links, (choose the language and/or date that works 
>>> best for you):
>>>
>>> English 3 UTC, March 29th 
>>> isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_G46JPCscQMiHr9QENA8eGw 
>>> <https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_G46JPCscQMiHr9QENA8eGw>
>>>
>>> Français 14 UTC, Mars 30 
>>> isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_F97yLyrmQL6XCNCX3yPsBw 
>>> <https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_F97yLyrmQL6XCNCX3yPsBw>
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>>> English 15 UTC, March 29th 
>>> isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_53mM-se_Sn26NaymBuCufg 
>>> <https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_53mM-se_Sn26NaymBuCufg>
>>>
>>> Español 18 UTC, Marzo 29 isoc.zoom.us/j/82410094976 
>>> <https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_vB8cYuqgQ9iZL_WVrGFstg>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Rama
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>>> Original Message:
>>> Sent: 3/13/2023 12:47:00 PM
>>> From: Kennedy Ronoh
>>> Subject: RE: Updated Link: ISOC - CL : 2023 Chapter Leadership Program
>>>
>>> Dear Rama,
>>>
>>> The link directs you to slides. There is still no registration link.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Kennedy Ronoh
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