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<p>Thank you for the updates Christine. That is indeed good news --
that Connect will soon be gone. One can hope that Fonteva will not
carry-over the worst sins of Connect. Then again, the current AMS
email is likewise a pain which is why we only use it when we have
to (like once every 2 years for elections), and instead resort to
alternatives such as GoogleGroups and various Messaging Apps.</p>
<p>Yes, the upcoming ChAC call next week would be a good time to
discuss corporate messaging, the new AMS, etc. For messaging i
believe the thing we have to avoid is mandating use of or
restricting communications to a single "tool" such as Connect
simply to justify (post hoc) the decision and expense of having
such a tool in the first place. <br>
</p>
<p>See you next week, <br>
</p>
<p>WYn<br>
Philippines<br>
</p>
<p>P.S. Good to touch base and talk (even briefly) with ISOC staff
at APRICOT the other week, too bad neither you nor Nick were
there.<br>
<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16 Mar 2023 4:28 AM, Christine
Saegesser wrote:<br>
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Hello Winthrop,
<div class=""><br class="">
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<div class="">Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I am sorry
that this is a bit of a frustrating experience right now. As
part of the AMS transition, we will be moving away from the
engagement platform “Connect". The functionality we currently
have in Connect will then be supported in Fonteva, our new AMS.</div>
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<div class="">I believe this may be a good moment to put together
some guidelines as to which communication tool will be used for
what type of message going forward. I’ll talk to the Chapters
Advisory Council Steering Committee if this is something we
could work on together. </div>
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<div class="">Best, </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Christine </div>
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<b class="">Christine Saegesser Baethge,</b> Sr. Director
Chapters and Special Interest Groups<br class="">
<a href="mailto:saegesser@isoc.org"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">saegesser@isoc.org</a> |
Twitter: ch_saebae<br class="">
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<div class="">On 15 Mar 2023, at 13:44, Winthrop Yu via
Chapter-delegates <<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext" moz-do-not-send="true">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>>
wrote:</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<p class="">Thank you for the heads-up Rama, the
objective of getting as many Chapter Leaders as
possible to sign-up for the course is a
<i class="">good thing</i>. What i'm wondering then
is, given that you want to encourage sign-ups, why
send the links thru
<b class="">Box</b>? That is a rather roundabout way
of doing it. <br class="">
</p>
<p class="">Also, if you're going for maximum reach,
why not share this invitation to the Chapter
Delegates on
<a href="http://elists.isoc.org" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">elists.isoc.org</a>? Is
there some policy that dictates use of
<b class="">Connect</b> in lieu of the more
straightforward elists? <br class="">
</p>
<p class=""><b class="">Connect</b> has several
problems, not least of which it tends to munge
(mutilate!) and auto-truncate email messages
(leaving out much of the thread and therefore
context). Even the links you provided below are
obfuscated when read in
<b class="">Connect</b>'s full HTML. Plain text
links are not only simple and straightforward, they
are also a safety feature (obfuscated links being a
favorite tactic of spammers and scammers). I am
assuming that these links need not be private or
confidential (the justification for <b class="">Box</b>),
and thus need not be obfuscated by <b class="">
Connect</b> or sent via <b class="">Box</b>. <br
class="">
</p>
I hope we try to Keep It Simple, as even plain-text
links sent to those unfamiliar with the ISOC Learn LMS
can be difficult to follow. (I was a mentor at the
launch of this "new" LMS, and even with clear links
and a supplementary PDF FAQ, and hand-holding
follow-up support, some of the new learners had
difficulties).
<p class="">Hope this helps,<br class="">
</p>
<p class="">WYn<br class="">
Philippines<br class="">
<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14 Mar 2023 12:57 AM,
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with four zoom links, are you not seeing that
when...</div>
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<p class=""><span
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Kennedy,</span></p>
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<p class=""><span
class="">The
updated link I
posted below
that says
'click here'
should lead to
a page with
four zoom
links, are you
not seeing
that when you
click it?</span></p>
<div class=""><span
class=""> </span><br
class="webkit-block-placeholder">
</div>
<p class=""><span
class="">->
</span><b
class="">CLICK
HERE for
registration
links: <a
href="https://isoc.box.com/s/sjfilxsn6ichayvqj5f2xcgiw48kawea"
title="https://isoc.box.com/s/sjfilxsn6ichayvqj5f2xcgiw48kawea" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">isoc.box.com/s/sjfilxsn6ichayvqj5f2xcgiw48kawea</a></b></p>
<p class=""><b
class=""> </b></p>
<p class=""><b
class=""> </b></p>
<p class=""><span
class="">Here
they are
posted, just
in case:</span></p>
<p class=""><span
class="">Session
1 registration
links, (choose
the language
and/or date
that works
best for you):</span></p>
<p class="">English
3 UTC, March
29th <a
href="https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_G46JPCscQMiHr9QENA8eGw"
title="https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_G46JPCscQMiHr9QENA8eGw"
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isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_G46JPCscQMiHr9QENA8eGw</a><span
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14 UTC, Mars
30 </span><a
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title="https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_F97yLyrmQL6XCNCX3yPsBw"
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15 UTC, March
29th <a
href="https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_53mM-se_Sn26NaymBuCufg"
title="https://isoc.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_53mM-se_Sn26NaymBuCufg"
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18 UTC, Marzo
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Original Message:<br
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Sent: 3/13/2023
12:47:00 PM<br
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From: Kennedy Ronoh<br
class="">
Subject: RE: Updated
Link: ISOC - CL :
2023 Chapter
Leadership Program<br
class="">
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<p class="">Dear
Rama,</p>
<p class="">The link
directs you to
slides. There is
still no
registration link.</p>
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