[Chapter-delegates] Comments? Re: Your feedback needed! - "Perspectives on LEO Satellites – Using Low Earth Orbit Satellites for Internet Access"

Thu Jun 30 07:58:11 PDT 2022

Hi Christian-
Thank you for your comments.

Best regards-
	Steve

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Steve Olshansky
Director, Trust Technology, Policy, & Strategy
Internet Society
www.internetsociety.org

On 30 Jun 2022, at 7:31, christian de larrinaga via Chapter-delegates wrote:

> Dan - Firstly a very big thank  you for developing this very helpful and needed
> briefing report.  There's a lot to think about.
>
> My sense is that this is an opportunity to get alongside the curve of
> this very exciting time for LEO Internet access and transit services to set out some areas where principles could be helpful in managing the
> development of future "space laws".  On that basis it might well be helpful
> to engage with international lawyers involved in space law.
>
> On the market side it is fairly evident that LEO is a finite
> resource. You do point this out.
>
> But there are some conclusions that can be drawn. One might be that due
> to  scarcity of optimal LE orbits  and the high risk of disaster should
> collisions occur through a gold rush race to secure orbits that there is an argument for sharing LEO infrastructures between multiple SpaceISPs  (perhaps establishing an Agency
> acting to enable and manage SpISPs and conduct could be discussed.
>
> Ideally IMO that would best work for all parties through an open peering
> mechanism for network interconnects, transit services and added value
> infrastructures such as caches, resource dips  etc.
>
> Managing and clearing fees would be important part to facilitate which if we desire a broad
> engagement of terrestrial and Space ISPs  indicates the potential for a clearing exchange.
>
> There is a similar argument for instance with sharing cellular
> infrastructures and optical / copper as well. Unfortunately the telco /
> cellular model has not adopted open peering but that should not deter us
> from pushing for this in Space?
>
> So along with recommending deployment and support for our open standards
> I'd recommend starting to talk about roles for open peering and
> transaction clearing exchanges .
>
>
>
> best Christian
>
>
> Dan York via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> writes:
>
>> Hello chapter leaders!
>>
>> Do any of you have comments about our “Perspectives on LEO Satellites”> draft
>> document<https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6> ? Is
>> it going in the right direction? Are there sections you think could
>> use more info? Or sections that aren’t necessary? When finalized,
>> would a document like this be helpful to you in helping discuss
>> Internet access via LEO satellite systems in your region? Or would it
>> not be helpful? How can we help you educate people about LEO satellite
>> systems?
>>
>> If you do have any comments, we’d like to hear them! Even if it’s just
>> a comment of “Looks good. Useful information.” You can send them to
>> leo-comments at isoc.org<mailto:leo-comments at isoc.org> or to Steve or I
>> directly.
>>
>> We haven’t seen many comments yet from Chapters, and I don’t know if
>> that is because the deadline is next Monday (July 4) - or if this
>> email message was lost in the flow of other messages.
>> Having been subscribed to this list for 10+ years, I *know* many of you have opinions! 🙂 I would welcome any feedback you have!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>> --
>> Dan York, Director, Online Content |  Internet Society
>> Project leader, 2022 Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite systems<https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos>
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>> On Jun 13, 2022, at 3:46 PM, Steve Olshansky via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>> wrote:
>>
>> (FR & ES below)
>>
>> Your feedback needed! - "Perspectives on LEO Satellites – Using Low Earth Orbit Satellites for Internet Access"
>>
>>
>> As you may be aware, we are engaged in a project[1] to explore whether
>> Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite-based Internet services can be a
>> viable option for Internet connectivity. The result of this project is
>> a document, outlining the Internet Society’s perspectives and
>> recommendations. This is intended to be a useful resource for the
>> community at large, and especially for policymakers and regulators.
>>
>>
>> In accordance with our Policy Development Process (PDP), we are
>> putting the draft document out to our community for a three-week
>> comment period. This is their (and your!) opportunity to weigh in on
>> an emerging technology. We welcome constructive feedback. Please do
>> send comments no later than your local close-of-business on
>> 4-July-2022 to
>> <leo-comments at isoc.org<mailto:leo-comments at isoc.org>> . The draft
>> document is at
>> [https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6](https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6)
>> . The PDF will be English-only, but feedback will be accepted in EN,
>> FR, or ES.
>>
>>
>> You are welcome to share it directly with other members of your
>> network, but we ask that you do not share it publicly yet (this
>> includes not posting it to any mailing lists). We strongly encourage
>> all interested members to review the documents, provide feedback and
>> engage in this process!
>>
>>
>> => Please do not send this to any mailing lists without first talking
>> with Steve Olshansky olshansky at isoc.org<mailto:olshansky at isoc.org> or
>> Dan York <york at isoc.org<mailto:york at isoc.org>> .
>>
>>
>> In particular, we are looking for your view on the following questions:
>>
>> • Does this guidance and recommendations make sense?
>>
>> • Is something missing in our analysis, and if so, what?
>>
>> • Do you have additional insights, positive or negative, that you would like to share?
>>
>> • Is it a helpful tool for you to better understand the issues involved?
>>
>> • Do you have suggestions for improvements, or ideas for how this document can be used by the Internet Society members and allies?
>>
>> After the PDP, we will review the feedback received and publish an updated version of this document.
>>
>>
>> On behalf of the project, I thank you in advance for your consideration and thoughtful feedback.
>>
>>
>> Best regards-
>>
>> Steve, on behalf of the Internet Society LEO project team
>>
>>
>> [1] [https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/](https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/)
>>
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/](https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/)
>>
>>
>> About the Internet Society’s Policy Development Process (PDP):
>>
>> In 2018, ISOC established a Policy Development Process (PDP) to lead
>> consultation of members (chapter and special interest group leaders,
>> organization members and individual members) ahead of the publication
>> of new policy positions. For more information, please visit:
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/](https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> +++
>>
>> Vos commentaires nous sont nécessaires ! « Points de vue sur les satellites en orbite terrestre basse (soit LEO en anglais) pour la connectivité Internet »
>>
>>
>> Membres de la communauté Internet Society
>>
>>
>> Comme vous le savez peut-être, nous sommes engagés dans un projet[1]
>> visant à déterminer si les services Internet par satellites en orbite
>> terrestre basse (LEO) peuvent être une option viable pour la
>> connectivité Internet. Le résultat de ce projet est un document
>> présentant les points de vue et les recommandations de l'Internet
>> Society. Il s'agit d'une ressource utile pour la communauté dans son
>> ensemble, et en particulier pour les décideurs et les régulateurs.
>>
>>
>> Conformément à notre processus d'élaboration de politiques (PDP), nous
>> soumettons le projet de document à notre communauté pendant une
>> période de trois semaines en vue de recueillir des commentaires. C'est
>> l'occasion pour vous de vous pencher sur une technologie
>> émergente. Nous apprécions les commentaires constructifs. Veuillez
>> envoyer vos commentaires au plus tard le 4-Juillet-2022 (avant votre
>> heure locale de fermeture des bureaux) à
>> <leo-comments at isoc.org<mailto:leo-comments at isoc.org>> . Le projet de
>> document se trouve sur
>> [https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6](https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6). Vous
>> êtes invités à le partager avec d'autres membres de votre
>> organisation, mais nous vous prions de ne pas le partager publiquement
>> pour le moment. Nous encourageons fortement tous les membres
>> intéressés à examiner le document, à fournir des commentaires et à
>> s'engager dans ce processus !
>>
>> => S'il vous plaît ne pas envoyer ceci à des listes de diffusion sans
>> d'abord parler avec Steve Olshansky
>> olshansky at isoc.org<mailto:olshansky at isoc.org> or Dan York
>> york at isoc.org<mailto:york at isoc.org> .
>>
>> En particulier, nous aimerions connaître votre avis sur les questions suivantes :
>>
>> • Ces conseils et recommandations sont-ils pertinents ?
>>
>> • Manque-t-il quelque chose dans notre analyse, et si oui, quoi ?
>>
>> • Avez-vous des idées supplémentaires, positives ou négatives, que vous aimeriez partager ?
>>
>> • Est-ce un outil pratique et utile pour mieux comprendre les enjeux ?
>>
>> • Avez-vous des suggestions d'améliorations ou des idées sur la façon dont ce document peut être utilisé par les membres et alliés de l'Internet Society ?
>>
>> À la suite du PDP, nous passerons en revue les commentaires reçus, afin de publier une version mise à jour de ce document.
>>
>>
>> Au nom du projet, je vous remercie d'avance pour votre analyse et vos commentaires judicieux.
>>
>>
>> Cordialement,
>>
>> Steve, au nom de l'équipe du projet LEO de l'Internet Society
>>
>>
>> [1] [https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/](https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/)
>>
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/](https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/)
>>
>>
>> À propos du processus d'élaboration de politiques (PDP) de l'Internet Society :
>>
>> En 2018, l'ISOC a établi un processus d'élaboration de politiques
>> (PDP) pour guider la consultation des membres (dirigeants de chapitres
>> et chefs de groupes d'intérêts spéciaux, membres organisationnels et
>> membres individuels) avant la publication de nouvelles prises de
>> positions politiques. Pour plus d'informations, veuillez consulter :
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/](https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> +++
>>
>> ¡Necesitamos sus comentarios! - "Perspectivas sobre los Satélites de órbita terrestre baja para la conectividad a Internet"
>>
>>
>> Miembros de la comunidad de Internet Society:
>>
>>
>> Como sabrás, participamos en un proyecto[1] para explorar si los
>> servicios de Internet basados en satélites de órbita terrestre baja
>> (LEO) pueden ser una opción viable para la conectividad a Internet. El
>> resultado de este proyecto es un documento que describe las
>> perspectivas y recomendaciones de Internet Society. Este pretende ser
>> un recurso útil para la comunidad en general, y especialmente para los
>> legisladores y reguladores.
>>
>>
>> De acuerdo con nuestra Proceso de desarrollo de políticas (PDP),
>> estamos presentando el borrador del documento a nuestra comunidad para
>> un período de comentarios de tres semanas. Esta es su oportunidad para
>> de opinar sobre una tecnología emergente. Agradecemos los comentarios
>> constructivos. Envíe sus comentarios a más tardar del final del
>> horario de trabajo el 4-Julio-2022 a
>> <leo-comments at isoc.org<mailto:leo-comments at isoc.org>> . El borrador del
>> documento está en
>> [https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6](https://isoc.box.com/s/zy90wj185bwlm93dkdacuoedmg8u61t6). Le
>> invitamos a compartirlo con otros miembros de su organización, pero le
>> pedimos que no lo comparta públicamente todavía. ¡Recomendamos
>> encarecidamente a todos los miembros interesados que revisen los
>> documentos, proporcionen comentarios y participen en este proceso!
>>
>> => Por favor no comparta esta información en ninguna lista de correo
>> sin haber conversado previamente con Steve Olshansky
>> olshansky at isoc.org<mailto:olshansky at isoc.org> or Dan York
>> york at isoc.org<mailto:york at isoc.org> .
>>
>>
>> En particular, estamos buscando sus opiniones sobre las siguientes preguntas:
>>
>> • ¿Las pautas y recomendaciones tienen sentido?
>>
>> • ¿Hay algo que falte en nuestro análisis, y si fuera así, qué es?
>>
>> • ¿Tiene ideas adicionales, positivas o negativas, que desea compartir?
>>
>> • ¿Es una herramienta útil para que pueda entender mejor los asuntos involucrados?
>>
>> • ¿Tiene alguna sugerencia para realizar mejoras o ideas de cómo los miembros de Internet Society y sus aliados pueden usarlo?
>>
>> Luego del PDP, revisaremos las devoluciones y comentarios recibidos, y publicaremos una versión actualizada de este documento.
>>
>>
>> En nombre del proyecto, les agradezco de antemano por su consideración y sus comentarios reflexivos.
>>
>>
>> Atentamente,
>>
>> Steve, a nombre del equipo del proyecto LEO de Internet Society
>>
>>
>> [1] [https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/](https://www.internetsociety.org/action-plan/2022/leos/)
>>
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/](https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/02/what-is-a-leo-satellite-system-and-can-it-help-build-a-bigger-internet/)
>>
>>
>> Sobre el Proceso de desarrollo de políticas (PDP) de Internet Society:
>>
>> En 2018, ISOC estableció un Proceso de desarrollo de políticas (PDP)
>> para liderar la consulta de los miembros (líderes de capítulos y
>> grupos de interés especial, organizaciones asociadas y miembros
>> individuales) antes de la publicación de nuevas posiciones de
>> políticas. Para obtener más información, visite:
>> [https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/](https://www.internetsociety.org/about-internet-society/policy-development-process/)
>
>
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> christian de larrinaga
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