[Chapter-delegates] FINAL REMINDER: Call for Nominations, ISOC Board of Trustees

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Thu Jan 6 08:36:27 PST 2022 

Richard,
Well, it depends on the point of view...
Why not look at it from a different perspective - if ISOC pays $ 150K 
(or 50K), that means that CISCO will have to explain to their directors 
why they are paid so little.
Of course, that's a joke, but so is comparing a commercial public 
company to an NGO. ISOC doesn't need to worry about selling routers, and 
has a budget, which actually allows paying the Trustees. However, of 
course, given the current configuration of the BoT, one should not 
expect that this will happen ever - be that in form of tens of thousands 
or even just $ 300 / year. People should not be surprised, if the BoT 
comes with a counter proposal - if someone wants to serve on the BoT, 
they should be able to raise funds for ISOC.

v/



On 1/6/22 11:31, Richard Barnes via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> Just for comparison here: Cisco directors are paid on the order of 
> $300k/yr, and being on the board of a public company entails far more 
> work and risk than serving on the ISOC board (far more than 2x by any 
> reasonable metric).  Cisco made $49bn in revenue in 2020, about 1000x 
> ISOC, so if ISOC were to pay trustees more than $300/yr, we would have 
> some explaining to do as to why we were paying our trustees 
> proportionally more than a for-profit company.
>
> --RLB
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 11:21 AM John More via Chapter-delegates 
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>     Hank
>
>     The amount I suggested was not a reflection on your suggestion, or
>     cynical.  I came up with a number that was not at a Wall Street
>     level, biut a reflection of the responsabilities of ISOC and
>     therefore of those who are its Trustees.
>
>     John
>
>     > On Jan 6, 2022, at 12:44 AM, Hank Nussbacher
>     <hank at post.isoc.org.il> wrote:
>     >
>     > On 06/01/2022 03:36, John More wrote:
>     >> Hank
>     >>
>     >> I fully agree that ISOC should compensate Trustees. There is no
>     reason not to and every reason to do so to enable a broader group
>     of people to run as Trustees. At a minimum, I would suggest
>     $150,000 a year.
>     >
>     > I  am not sure if you made that last sentence in cynicism since
>     that was totally not my intention to compensate Trustees at
>     $150K/yr.  I was thinking more on the order of $50K/yr for the
>     50hr/month = $83/hr.
>     >
>     >
>     > Regards,
>     >
>     > Hank
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >>
>     >> John More
>     >>
>     >>> On Jan 5, 2022, at 11:10 AM, Hank Nussbacher via
>     Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> On 04/01/2022 04:58, George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi George,
>     >>>
>     >>> I assume many of you also follow the ICANN at-large list and
>     their "multistakeholderism" discussions this past week.
>     >>>
>     >>> In order to be a proper candidate, one that is involved and
>     not just a figurehead, you have to assume at least 50 hr/month of
>     work at being a Trustee.    Other than travel there is no
>     reimbursement for time spent working as  a Trustee.  So who can
>     volunteer and who cannot:
>     >>>
>     >>> - who can volunteer:
>     >>>    - a retired person with a pension (George Sadowsky)
>     >>>    - a person whose company/organization is willing to fund
>     his/her time as a trustee (Richard Barnes/Cisco, Paul
>     Ebersman/Neustar, Brian Haberman/JHU, Ted Hardie/Cisco, Robert
>     Pepper/FB, Jon Peterson/Neustar, Laura Thomson/Fastly)
>     >>>    - A person whose organization may not be completely aware
>     of the immense time spent on ISOC Trustee needs, yet their goals
>     are consistent with the goals of ISOC and allow their staff some
>     leeway into such participation (Ndeye Maimouna Diop/Sonotel, Luis
>     Martinez/Professor in Mexico, Muhammad Shabbir)
>     >>>
>     >>> Every company has a Board of Directors who are paid for being
>     a Board member (not a lot but not nothing).  As long as ISOC has a
>     policy not to compensate Trustees, we will end up whereby ISOC is
>     indirectly controlled by large technological companies.
>     >>>
>     >>> In order to attract those 35-55 year olds who work 50+
>     hrs/week and who don't have an employer to back them, ISOC needs
>     to change its policy and begin to compensate trustees.
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards,
>     >>> Hank
>     >>>
>     >>>> Dear Colleagues,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> This is a final reminder that the call for nominations for
>     the Internet Society Board of Trustees 2022 elections closes at
>     15:00 UTC on Friday, 7 January.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> If you or someone you know is interested in serving on the
>     board, please see the official call for nominations, additional
>     information and links to the online nomination forms at:
>     >>>> http://www.internetsociety.org/trustees
>     >>>>
>     >>>> Best regards,
>     >>>>
>     >>>> George Sadowsky
>     >>>> 2021-2022 Nominations Committee Chair
>     >>>> Internet Society
>     >>>>
>     >>>>
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