[Chapter-delegates] What should ISOC's future goals be? How can we work toward achieving them as ISOC Chapters?

[Veni Markovski]

Thanks, Alan.
I guess this was addressed to George and Muhammad (and all chapters' 
delegates).
To use the opportunity - Happy Birthday, George! Best wishes and good 
luck (including at the BoT;)

All,
I am afraid that Alan might be right, when he says that the chapters 
might be disappointed / disillusioned and might not provide a lot of 
feedback. I was hesitant if I should respond, too, as we have discussed 
similar items in the past, and the result has been always the same - a 
lot of emails, and no outcome whatsoever.

But, given the fact that two of our chapter-elected Trustees are asking 
us questions, I still feel it's good to answer.

Best,
v/


On 9/30/21 03:04, Alan Levin via Chapter-delegates wrote:
> Hi George, Veni,
>
> You are correct, it is NOT the interest of the Chapters to reply.
>
> It appears from Andrews reply that ISOC is, and always will be a USA 
> centric organisation and the USA just has different laws to the rest 
> of so it does not matter what we say.
>
> ISOC global is acting like a charity for non-USA organisations and it 
> has been given the license by the global netizens. This is why ISOC-ZA 
> split from Internet South Africa.
>
> I can also point out that we have an internet governance meltdown in 
> my country. The .za domain name has ended the registry contract 
> without a roadmap for a new registry operator and totally destabilised 
> the cctld. Furthermore, as you know AfriNICs bank account has been 
> frozen for months. When I asked ISOC global about this they said they 
> will get "an action team" onto it...
>
> I am so sorry but you have failed to establish "trust" from my 
> perspective. Noone will provide you with decent replies in such a state.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:49 AM George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates 
> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>
>     Hello, All,
>
>     I'm pleased that our initial mail on the above subject asking
>     chapter officers and members about their view of the future of
>     ISOC is receiving a good response.
>
>     However it has come to our attention that at least some chapters
>     are holding back responses because some of the responses already
>     provided and copied to the entire chapters list have been
>     responded to in ways that they feel is inappropriate.  In
>     addition, it is our experience that in some cultures, responses
>     may be muted for fear of offending recipients, however unintended
>     to provoke a negative response they may be.
>
>     We want to hear from everyone, and there is an easy way to solve
>     the above problem.  When you respond to us with your chapter's and
>     members' opinions, simply write to only the two of us, and do not
>     copy the chapter list.  Our email addresses are:
>
>             <george.sadowsky at gmail.com>
>             <mshabbirawan at gmail.com>
>
>     If you want your opinions heard  ---  which we surely hope that
>     you do  ---  but do not want to be identified publicly with them,
>     just tell us that.  If you have specific questions or concerns,
>     write to either or both or us, and we will help you in any way
>     that we can.
>
>     Please continue to share your opinions and suggestions with us. 
>     They are important.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     George Sadowsky
>     Muhammad Shabbir Awan
>
>
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