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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks, Alan. <br>
I guess this was addressed to George and Muhammad (and all
chapters' delegates). <br>
To use the opportunity - Happy Birthday, George! Best wishes and
good luck (including at the BoT;) <br>
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All, <br>
I am afraid that Alan might be right, when he says that the
chapters might be disappointed / disillusioned and might not
provide a lot of feedback. I was hesitant if I should respond,
too, as we have discussed similar items in the past, and the
result has been always the same - a lot of emails, and no outcome
whatsoever. <br>
<br>
But, given the fact that two of our chapter-elected Trustees are
asking us questions, I still feel it's good to answer.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
v/<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi George, Veni,
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<div>You are correct, it is NOT the interest of the Chapters to
reply. </div>
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<div>It appears from Andrews reply that ISOC is, and always will
be a USA centric organisation and the USA just has different
laws to the rest of so it does not matter what we say.</div>
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<div>ISOC global is acting like a charity for non-USA
organisations and it has been given the license by the global
netizens. This is why ISOC-ZA split from Internet South
Africa. </div>
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<div>I can also point out that we have an internet governance
meltdown in my country. The .za domain name has ended the
registry contract without a roadmap for a new registry
operator and totally destabilised the cctld. Furthermore, as
you know AfriNICs bank account has been frozen for months.
When I asked ISOC global about this they said they will get
"an action team" onto it... </div>
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<div>I am so sorry but you have failed to establish "trust" from
my perspective. Noone will provide you with decent replies in
such a state.</div>
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<div>Good Luck!</div>
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<div>Alan</div>
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AM George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates <<a
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
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0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,
All,<br>
<br>
I'm pleased that our initial mail on the above subject asking
chapter officers and members about their view of the future of
ISOC is receiving a good response.<br>
<br>
However it has come to our attention that at least some
chapters are holding back responses because some of the
responses already provided and copied to the entire chapters
list have been responded to in ways that they feel is
inappropriate. In addition, it is our experience that in some
cultures, responses may be muted for fear of offending
recipients, however unintended to provoke a negative response
they may be.<br>
<br>
We want to hear from everyone, and there is an easy way to
solve the above problem. When you respond to us with your
chapter's and members' opinions, simply write to only the two
of us, and do not copy the chapter list. Our email addresses
are:<br>
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<<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>><br>
<<a href="mailto:mshabbirawan@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mshabbirawan@gmail.com</a>><br>
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If you want your opinions heard --- which we surely hope
that you do --- but do not want to be identified publicly
with them, just tell us that. If you have specific questions
or concerns, write to either or both or us, and we will help
you in any way that we can.<br>
<br>
Please continue to share your opinions and suggestions with
us. They are important.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
George Sadowsky<br>
Muhammad Shabbir Awan <br>
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