[Chapter-delegates] more diversity, was On funding dedicated to chapters

[Veni Markovski]

Hi, John.
Chapters are now the ones, which simultaneously have to provide the
diversity, but they have to provide all of the diversity? Chapters elect
four Trustees. Last time I checked, 3 of these 4 are from Latin America,
Africa and Asia. One is from the USA.
Instead of playing with hypothetical situations, why don’t you tell us how
many of the other Trustees are from Africa, Asia or Latin America? Or, if
you’d like, even how many Trustees in the past from these regions have been
proposed by the Org members and by the IETF? That would be some useful
information.

So, even if the chapters would provide not “just” 75% of their elected
Trustees to be not from USA and Western Europe, but 100%, that still will
be only 1/3 of all Trustees. So, it’s up to the IETF and the organization
members, to, perhaps do their part. If they want, of course, nobody is
forcing them.



On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 22:49 John Levine <isocmember at johnlevine.com> wrote:

> It appears that Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates <veni at veni.com> said:
> >We — well, I  — don’t complain from the IETF. As you said - it’s their
> >issue, which from what we see they are either not willing, or not able to
> >solve. Or maybe they don’t see it as a problem, as the chapters do. If the
> >latter, that’s another problem, which perhaps ISOC could address in
> talking
> >to the IETF.
>
> Why do you imagine that ISOC does not talk to the IETF?  I presume you
> are aware that the IAB appoints 1/3 of the board, and the current ISOC
> board chair is an active IETF participant and a former chair of the IAB.
>
> But for the diversity advocates in the chapters, here is a question:
>
> Let's say there are two open Chapter seats on the board, and the nominating
> committee offers candidates from south Asia, west Africa, and Latin
> America.
> Then there is a petition to nominate an old guy from the U.S.  Should the
> petition candidate be allowed to run, even though he would increase the
> number of of old guys from the U.S.?
>
> Let's assume the petition candidate does run and gets more votes than
> anyone else. Should he be seated on the board, even though he would
> increase the number of old guys from the U.S.?
>
> If the answer to those is yes, how do you plan to increase the board's
> diversity?  If the answer is no, how do you plan to explain to the
> chapters that they can't vote for their preferred candidate?
>
> R's,
> John
>
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Best regards,
Veni Markovski
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<http://www.veni.com/>

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