[Chapter-delegates] On funding dedicated to chapters

[Veni Markovski]

Thank you, John.
Yes, I forgot to comment the "forcing", which was mentioned yesterday by 
someone in this thread. Nobody is "forcing" diversity, but ISOC is an 
international organization, with 100+ chapters and org members, who have 
hundreds of thousands (if not, when combined, millions!) of employees 
around the world.
SURELY they could come with some candidates to be Trustees, who are not 
necessarily Americans... And few years ago, when we discussed this 
again, I suggested that ISOC reaches out to their org members, and to 
the IETF, and tell them that this constant proposal of Americans for the 
BoT, when they have enough diversity - geographical, cultural, gender, 
etc. - could be changed somewhat, to reflect the truly international 
nature of ISOC.
That is, of course, if ISOC indeed not only believes it's international, 
but also provide evidence to prove it.

v/

On 10/5/21 10:48, John More wrote:
> Veni
>
> I fully agree with your analysis. Diversity is crucial for ensuring 
> that there is an international set of inputs, that the Foundation not 
> be American-centric.
>
> Requiring diversity is not some sort of “forced” policy.  It is a 
> basic value.  I note the benefits of the ChAC’s having a group of 
> members from the regions and three at-large.
>
> On the other the assumptions expressed by some in this set of emails 
> that somehow the Foundation being a US non-profit makes it incapable 
> of fulfilling its purposes shows only that there is a lot of 
> misinformation about what the restrictions are and the freedom it has 
> to act internationally.
>
> John More
>
>
>
>> On Oct 5, 2021, at 10:34 AM, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates 
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Tom,
>> in another list, maintained by ISOC, and dedicated to ISOC's 
>> "governance reform", when I raised a question about diversity, was 
>> confronted with questions that diversity should not be "forced" (not 
>> sure who's forcing it, since none of us, chapter leaders, has any 
>> power to "force" anything on ISOC?!), but people should be taken by 
>> their experience, expertise, skills, etc. This, of course is true, 
>> the only problem is that it's not the entire truth, as there are 
>> experienced and skilled experts around the world; and the org 
>> members, and the IETF have enough experts among their 
>> members/employees/volunteers, who are not necessarily only from North 
>> America...
>>
>> It seems that lack of diversity is one problem, and not understanding 
>> that it is a problem, is... another problem.
>>
>> v/
>>
>>
>> On 10/5/21 09:18, Tom Fredrik Blenning via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>> Den 02.10.2021 15:40, skrev Gihan Dias via Chapter-delegates:
>>>> On 01/10/2021 14:58, Ted Hardie via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We recently updated 
>>>>> https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/ 
>>>>> <https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/> to include 
>>>>> contact information for the board chair, so that the chair can 
>>>>> forward information received to the Trustees.
>>>>
>>>> WOW!
>>>>
>>>> 10 people from US (1 moving to Canada), another from North America, 
>>>> 1 from Asia and 1 from Africa.
>>>
>>> I reacted to the same myself, and I think it's something that is 
>>> worth looking into. I would like to draw attention to those trustee 
>>> members appointed by IETF, every single one is from the United States.
>>>
>>> In am not looking for a perfect demographic composition of the 
>>> board, it is however important to have different perspectives. I am 
>>> reluctant to believe that the current board of trustees represents 
>>> such diversity.
>>>
>>> -Tom Fredrik
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>> Veni
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