[Chapter-delegates] What should ISOC's future goals be? How can we work toward achieving them as ISOC Chapters?

Fri Oct 1 06:28:22 PDT 2021

Robin Wilton was great (is he still with ISOC?) -- concise yet to the point, 
very effective IMNHO.

And ... definitely +1 Veni. I've sent an email response to our regional list 
(plain old email lists, rather than centralized platforms/fora are a wonderful 
thing, perhaps the "saving grace" for the true IWN).

WYn

On 30 Sep 2021 9:14 pm, 32888 via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> The person I mentioned is Robin Wilton. Do you know him?
> I met him in a business for EU - reviewing project. Here is how is he presented:
>
> Robin Wilton is the Internet Society’s Director, Internet Trust. He is a 
> specialist in online privacy and digital identity, with over 30 years’ 
> experience in systems engineering, consulting and industry analyst roles.
>
> Regarding sending my mail to the elist, I see no need to do it, as everything 
> is more or less ignored. We are happy to receive some funding for 
> administration to run the Chapter as we do not have some commercial 
> activities, and according to our law, only individuals can be members.
> So, we run what is of interest to our community and to the  wide public 
> (opinion and papers in the mani newspaper and other media, e.g. about the 
> Pompeo vision for a "clean network", the 35th anniversary of the NFSnet 
> project and other important topics like encryption).
> Speaking about internet governance in EU is not a topic to be discussed so far).
>
> Regards,
>
> Borka
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021, Veni Markovski via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Alan.
>> I guess this was addressed to George and Muhammad (and all chapters'
>> delegates).
>> To use the opportunity - Happy Birthday, George! Best wishes and good luck
>> (including at the BoT;)
>>
>> All,
>> I am afraid that Alan might be right, when he says that the chapters might
>> be disappointed / disillusioned and might not provide a lot of feedback. I
>> was hesitant if I should respond, too, as we have discussed similar items in
>> the past, and the result has been always the same - a lot of emails, and no
>> outcome whatsoever.
>>
>> But, given the fact that two of our chapter-elected Trustees are asking us
>> questions, I still feel it's good to answer.
>>
>> Best,
>> v/
>>
>>
>> On 9/30/21 03:04, Alan Levin via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>>       Hi George, Veni,
>> You are correct, it is NOT the interest of the Chapters to reply.
>>
>> It appears from Andrews reply that ISOC is, and always will be a USA
>> centric organisation and the USA just has different laws to the rest
>> of so it does not matter what we say.
>>
>> ISOC global is acting like a charity for non-USA organisations and it
>> has been given the license by the global netizens. This is why ISOC-ZA
>> split from Internet South Africa.
>>
>> I can also point out that we have an internet governance meltdown in
>> my country. The .za domain name has ended the registry contract
>> without a roadmap for a new registry operator and totally destabilised
>> the cctld. Furthermore, as you know AfriNICs bank account has been
>> frozen for months. When I asked ISOC global about this they said they
>> will get "an action team" onto it...
>>
>> I am so sorry but you have failed to establish "trust" from my
>> perspective. Noone will provide you with decent replies in such a
>> state.
>>
>> Good Luck!
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:49 AM George Sadowsky via Chapter-delegates
>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
>>       Hello, All,
>>
>>       I'm pleased that our initial mail on the above subject
>>       asking chapter officers and members about their view of
>>       the future of ISOC is receiving a good response.
>>
>>       However it has come to our attention that at least some
>>       chapters are holding back responses because some of the
>>       responses already provided and copied to the entire
>>       chapters list have been responded to in ways that they
>>       feel is inappropriate.  In addition, it is our experience
>>       that in some cultures, responses may be muted for fear of
>>       offending recipients, however unintended to provoke a
>>       negative response they may be.
>>
>>       We want to hear from everyone, and there is an easy way to
>>       solve the above problem.  When you respond to us with your
>>       chapter's and members' opinions, simply write to only the
>>       two of us, and do not copy the chapter list.  Our email
>>       addresses are:
>>
>> <george.sadowsky at gmail.com>
>> <mshabbirawan at gmail.com>
>>
>>       If you want your opinions heard  ---  which we surely hope
>>       that you do  ---  but do not want to be identified
>>       publicly with them, just tell us that.  If you have
>>       specific questions or concerns, write to either or both or
>>       us, and we will help you in any way that we can.
>>
>>       Please continue to share your opinions and suggestions
>>       with us.  They are important.
>>
>>       Best regards,
>>
>>       George Sadowsky
>>       Muhammad Shabbir Awan
>>
>>
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>> Best regards, Veni
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