[Chapter-delegates] ISOC open letter

[Christian de Larrinaga]

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On Thu 20 May 2021 at 18:03, Richard Hill via Chapter-delegates 
 <chapter-delegates at elis ts.isoc.org> wrote:
 > Dear Christian,
 >
 > Thank you for this.
 >
 > Please see embedded comments below.
 >
 > Best,
 > Richard
 >
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-
 >> bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Christian de Larrinaga 
 >> via
 >> Chapter-delegates
 >> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2021 17:19
 >> To: Andrew Sullivan
 >> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
 >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC open letter
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Rather than toss the semantics of layering or not to layer, 
 >> into a
 >> melee of confusions.
 >> 
 >> Let's just agree that we are here because we want an open 
 >> global
 >> permissionless network of networks. 
 >
 > Yes, but with the understanding that offline law applies 
 > equally online. 
 For
 > example, we want consumer protection laws and antitrust laws to 
 > apply.
 >
 Of course ... 
 With the exception of administrative laws designed specifically 
 for physical services and so on.  For instance being able to 
 authenticate using digital tools. 
 >>So we can invent, deploy and
 >> chat end to end under as much of our own rules and initiatives 
 >> as
 >> we please without being mediated, disintermediated, or 
 >> interred in
 >> a globular soup of bureaucratic haze.
 >
 > Not really. As noted above, offline law applies equally online, 
 > despite
 > Barlow's impassioned plea which might be understood to suggest 
 > the 
 contrary.
 >
 > Of course some offline law may not make sense anymore and 
 > should be 
 changed.
 > But that's a different matter.
 indeed as above. 
 >
 >> 
 >> ?
 >> 
 >> On that note I wonder if Veni and Richard feel their 
 >> question(s)
 >> has been answered?
 >
 > No, it still is not clear to me what bits of the proposed 
 > Canadian law 
 are
 > inconsistent with what bits of the Internet Way of Networking.
 >
 > SNIP
 OK - Veni has responded that  his questions are satisfied.
 C
Date: Fri, 21 May 2021 15:51:56 +0100
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