[Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advice notice

[Richard Hill]

Dear Mike,

 

I did not participate in suppressing any dissent. On the contrary, I worked hard to ensure that the document reflected all points of view.


Best,

Richard

 

From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Mike Godwin via Chapter-delegates
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 23:30
To: John More
Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advice notice

 

Richard writes:

 

'With due respect, the ChAC process was scrupulously followed, as Eduardo has explained. You apparently think that that process is not appropriate. You are of course entitled to you views, but it is the process that was approved by the Board.'

 

The notion that scrupulous adherence to due process is a defense is a common argument in Hell. See, e.g., this statement by Grant Gilmore:

 

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/342530-the-ages-of-american-law-the-storrs-lectures-series

 

In relevant sentence: "In hell there will be nothing but law, and due process will be meticulously observed.”

 

Your argument that that due process was "scrupulously" followed is no comfort to the dissenters whom you participated in suppressing.

 

Mike

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:07 PM John More via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

Juan  

I fully recognize how busy most of us are. There is a difference between the elists which are often loaded with repetitious comments and can be a waste of time. The ChapterAC process for the advice was clear and scrupulously followed. Moreover, it involved relatively minimal time demands except for those of us on the drafting committee. All that was required was to review the draft and send in an email opposition. If there had been opposition expressed, a vote would have been required.

So I agree that silence is not assent, but it is a “consent" that the proposal go forward without a formal vote, especially since withholding consent was fairly easy to do.

I do hope you will be able to be involved if the ChaptersAC has another issue like this one.

Yours,

John More
ISOC-DC

> On Mar 1, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Juan C. Cigala, Internet Society Canarias via Chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:
> 
> I agree with Franca and Solomon, silence is not consent.
> 
> Many of us haven't the time to take care of this kind of never ending kind of discussions.
> 
> I support the debate, but with the due respect for the time of the others.
> 
> 
> On 2/27/2020 04:49, Solomon Hopewell Kembo via Chapter-delegates wrote:
>> I agree with Franca, silence is not consent.
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