[Chapter-delegates] Bank Accounts was - deadline for admin funding

[sivasubramanian muthusamy]

On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:49 PM Andrew Sullivan via Chapter-delegates <
chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 09:37:41PM +0530, sivasubramanian muthusamy wrote:
> >
> >alter the way Chapters worked.  Ten years ago "Chapter Support" was
> >supportive, fully recognizing the independence of the Chapter and the
> value
> >of the work done by Chapters.  A little later, gradually, there was an
> >unspoken thought that Chapters are peripheral to the central work that
> >Staff do.
>
> I understand what this claim says, but I don't understand what it means.
> Can you please tell me _how_ the current arrangements (not the last 10
> years, please, about which I can do nothing, but the _current_
> arrangements) do not recognize the independence of Chapters or the value of
> the work they do?
>
> The current charter letter is quite explicit about this, and that's why it
> is at such pains to state with precision what the rights and obligations on
> each side are.  Clarity in the relationship between two independent allies
> is important, and it seems to me that such clarity is a sign of respect by
> each of the other party.
>

The problems relate to ISOC seeing two "sides", and the notion of
separation as reflected in "each other party".  Chapters are a part of the
Internet Society, not a different 'side' or another 'party'.  We are the
Internet Society.  At times it felt more like Chapters are a little
disconnected.

It may be useful to review some of the threads on the Chapter Charter
letter(s), or to wait for comments from Other Chapters / members.  What I
say here reflect my perceptions and my understanding, which might not be
the same as what others feel.


>
> >It was at this point of time that the Internet Society redefined
> >itself as a "mission-driven,, or mission based" organization, which in
> >effect redefined its legal status and 'style' of working as more of a
> Staff
> >centric organization.
>
> […]
>
> >There have been more positive support to Chapters, more responsive
> support,
> >I have not found any difficulty dealing with Staff, but the overall
> >framework is now changed, from that of Chapter-Support to
> >Chapter-Adminstration.
>
> It would help staff to respond to this if there were something concrete
> you were stating you wanted to be different.  You say that there is more
> positive support, more responsive support, but somehow that this is bad
> style.


It was fair to say it this way. It would have been one sided if I talked
only about the problem but ignored the responsiveness.


> I don't understand what action you would like, so I can't really respond
> to whether it is possible.
>

There is no specific call for action here. It seemed pertinent to comment,
and in the absence of any other comments for or against, this might only be
a matter of perception.


>
> Thanks,
>
> A
>
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