[Chapter-delegates] Problems with new membership system

Veni Markovski veni at veni.com
Wed May 8 04:35:19 PDT 2019


Weird thing.
My email channels were active (2 of them), but in the field for "receive
emails" it was saying "no". I changed it to "yes".

Sigh.

v/

On 05/08/19 04:50, Richard Hill wrote:
>
> Indeed, during the weekend, I noticed that I was no longer receiving
> e-mails from the Internet Policy list. I was unable to access the
> archives, and when I asked for a reset or the archive password (in
> case I had forgotten my password), nothing happened.
>
>  
>
> I logged into my membership page (on www.isoc.org
> <http://www.isoc.org>), clicked “Edit Profile”, then “Interests” and
> saw at the bottom right, under “EMAIL CHANNELS”, that my mailing lists
> were not active.  I activated them on that page, and since then I have
> been receiving messages from the lists again.
>
>  
>
> I reported the issue, and also the inability to access the archive and
> to reset the archive password, to Chapter Support and they told me
> that they are working on it.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Richard
>
>  
>
> *From:*Chapter-delegates
> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Alejandro Pisanty
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 8, 2019 04:26
> *To:* Christine Saegesser
> *Cc:* Chapter Delegates; AMS Support
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Problems with new membership system
>
>  
>
> Hi,
>
>  
>
> to add to the aggravations, a number of us have discovered today that
> many ISOC members have been cut off from the Internet Policy mailing
> list and are finding it impossible to be reinstated, as well as
> accessing the archives. 
>
>  
>
> In the process we have found that  it is not possible - or at least
> not at all easy - to even find the list through a member's dashboard.
> PLEASE act on this.
>
>  
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>  
>
> On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 5:12 AM Christine Saegesser <saegesser at isoc.org
> <mailto:saegesser at isoc.org>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Juan Carlos, all,
>
>      
>
>     Thanks for your message. Please be assured that we are in contact
>     with MemberNova on a regular basis to make the system as useful as
>     possible for all of us. 
>
>      
>
>     The Regional Community Engagement Managers are there to help you
>     with questions you may have in relation to the use of the new
>     system. If you think there is a genuine bug, please do make sure
>     to send details (including screen shots if possible) to
>     <amshelp at isoc.org <mailto:amshelp at isoc.org>>. 
>
>      
>
>     Also, please remember that our new Association Management System
>     (MemberNova) is being rolled out in phases and its functionalities
>     cover a wide range of areas across the organization. The Chapter
>     functionalities are one of these. 
>
>      
>
>     The Chapter Officer User Guide is available on the Chapter
>     Dashboard in MemberNova. To get there, please log into MemberNova
>     <https://admin.internetsociety.org/622619/User/Login>  select your
>     Chapter under "My Chapters and Special Interest Groups (SIG)” and
>     you’ll find it under “Quick Links >  Chapter Officers User Guide”
>     on the “Chapter Officer” tab.
>
>      
>
>     Having said that, we are also planning to organise additional
>     MemberNova training for the Chapter leaders and will keep you
>     updated on that. 
>
>      
>
>     Best, 
>
>      
>
>     Christine 
>
>      
>
>      
>
>         On 3. May 2019, at 09:15, Juan Carlos Cigala García
>         <jcigala at gmail.com <mailto:jcigala at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Dear Christine,
>
>         The first email in this thread was in february 12 (by Olivier
>         MJ Crépin-Leblond) and today is march 3... I don't know if in
>         our Organization (obviously including our members worldwide)
>         there are somebody who can talk with the MemberNova team and
>         help them about the bunch of issues...
>
>         We have issues with the new portal in the Spain Canary Islands
>         chapter (yet in formation). Until now, I wasn't consider
>         publish our situation in this list but, it seems like the
>         endless story with no good conclusion.
>
>         IMO, we need a effective solution by the responsible team
>         (MemberNova or whoever) NOW.
>
>         Regards,
>
>         --
>         Juan C. Cigala
>
>
>         El jue., 2 may. 2019 a las 21:00, Christine Saegesser
>         (<saegesser at isoc.org <mailto:saegesser at isoc.org>>) escribió:
>         Hi Veni, all, 
>
>         We are reading this mail thread. Can you (and Lianna) forward
>         specifics of the denied membership that still seem to be there
>         to <amshelp at isoc.org <mailto:amshelp at isoc.org>> so that we can
>         have a look at what happened?
>
>         Siva, unfortunately I cannot see the screen shots that you
>         mention in your message. Can you please resend those to
>         <amshelp at isoc.org <mailto:amshelp at isoc.org>> too so we
>         can have a look at what you’re seeing?
>
>         The actual “drop” in membership linked to the opt-in process
>         last year became visible in the numbers you see with the new
>         Association Management System (MemberNova), since only members
>         who opted-in were migrated over to the new system. 
>
>         And just another note: that people from around the world can
>         request to join your Chapter is not an error as such. Many
>         Chapters do accept members from outside of their country. The
>         decision if a Chapter does so or not (or: is allowed to do so
>         or not) should be based on each Chapters' bylaws and
>         local legislation. 
>
>         Best, 
>
>         Christine 
>
>
>         > On 2. May 2019, at 20:33, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com
>         <mailto:veni at veni.com>> wrote:
>>         > :-)
>         > That's why I said "I've given up". 
>         > The problem is, when ISOC staff will come to chase us down
>         that we have pending chapter members. So, hope they are
>         reading this mail thread (and copying Nick, just in case).
>>         > v/
>>         > On 05/02/19 14:31, Lianna Galstyan wrote:
>         >> Veni,
>         >> 
>         >> We have the same issue of denied membership. We declined a
>         membership of someone from Africa and that application is
>         still there.
>         >> 
>         >> Lianna
>         >> 
>         >> On 02/05/2019 21:26, Veni Markovski wrote:
>         >>> Siva, 
>         >>> I gave up trying to fix some of the issues. 
>         >>> In the GDPR question ISOC Bulgaria lost about half of its
>         members - and I could understand that. 
>         >>> But then again, towards the end of the year, another 80 %
>         were gone! The weird thing is that we emailed all of them -
>         about 500 people, inviting them to an event we had in October,
>         and offered them to opt-out; only one of them asked to not get
>         more emails. Now we are down to about 115 members. 
>         >>> Also, there're a lot of people from Africa, who are now
>         asking to be affiliated to our chapter - obviously an error.
>         One of them cannot be denied membership. A N.H. is asking to
>         join from April 23rd, and although we denied the request,
>         she's still there....
>         >>> 
>         >>> v
>         >>> 
>         >>> On 05/02/19 13:18, sivasubramanian muthusamy wrote:
>         >>>> 
>         >>>> I tried to renew all subscriptions of members since 2011
>         expiring during 2019, there were about 300 records or so in
>         the list, the extend command from the drop down box with
>         select all mode, brought up a dialog box that wanted me to
>         confirm by writing the word 'delete', I took my chances and
>         wrote that to confirm the 'extend" command, all I see is a
>         progress circle for the last 60 minutes. Some screen shots
>         attached. Are there enough computing resources committed to
>         the ams server? Why is this confusing instruction to confirm
>         an "extend" command with the word 'delete'?
>         >>>> 
>         >>>> 
>         >>> 
>         >>> -- 
>         >>> 
>         >>> Best regards, 
>         >>> Veni
>         >>> 
>         >>> https://www.veni.com
>         >>> 
>         >>> pgp:5BA1366E 
>         >>> veni at veni.com <mailto:veni at veni.com>
>         >>> 
>         >>> 
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>         >>> with or related to him in any given way. 
>         >>> 
>         >>> 
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>         >> 
>         >> 
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>>         > -- 
>>         > Best regards, 
>         > Veni
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>>         > pgp:5BA1366E 
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