[Chapter-delegates] ISOC @ ICANN 61
Christian de Larrinaga
cdel at firsthand.net
Tue Mar 13 11:13:23 PDT 2018
Raúl,
Yes a great idea.
I saw a notice of a regional workshop coming up in Sofia for the european area but it mentioned a date as soon as April. That doesn't give much time to prep for such a discussion.
This list shows chapters doing great work but the follow through is tougher to gauge; suggesting structure may be missing.
Christian
Raul Echeberria wrote:
> Christian,
>
> This is a very interesting reflection.
> Certainly, this could be a good topic to discuss on our Chapter regional workshops
>
>
> Raúl
>
>
>
>> El 13 mar. 2018, a las 06:56, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> escribió:
>>
>> That reassurance is good to hear!
>>
>> Given the often expressed squeeky noises coming from chapters regarding
>> funding. How do chapters build let alone sustain long range programs
>> such as ALS / NPOC / local IGFs?
>>
>> Almost everything I see is in practice self supported by volunteers and
>> that limits the catchment for both the policy ambition and engagement
>> from a practical perspective.
>>
>> ICANN seems such a small part of the puzzle to me these days. Policy
>> that impacts users seems to be being made directly via local
>> legislation, and indirectly via LIRs, local DNS registries particularly
>> at ccTLDs, peering exchanges between private members, at content
>> networks, traversable indexes and analytics, application infrastructures
>> such as CDNs, user tracking networks and for access networks via
>> placement of CGNATs, IP address allocations, and increasingly fragmented
>> routing tables at ISPs as CDNs take hold.
>>
>> I got another note from Sir Tim Berners-Lee yesterday asking for support
>> to remake the web. Where should our priorities lie?
>>
>>
>> C
>> John More wrote:
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Happily I think you need not be concerned. Individual members of
>>> Chapters are involved across the board with ICANN. Involvement on the
>>> Chapter level is not restrictive. There is no reason that a Chapter’s
>>> involvement as an ALS and/or a member of the NPOC would be limiting.
>>> Chapters are also supportive of country IGFs. That is not limiting.
>>>
>>> In fact, involvement in ICANN processes is fully supported by the
>>> Internet Society as far as I can see.
>>>
>>> That is not to say that your concern could not be a valid one. It is
>>> only that it does not seem to arise from how the involvement actually
>>> plays put.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>>
>>> John More
>>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Christian de Larrinaga
>>>> <cdel at firsthand.net <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> There are several SO's and other structures in ICANN that are under
>>>> representing local communities around the world. ISOC community is
>>>> often the only (or one of very few) that might have the independent nous
>>>> and interest in the round to promote engagement across that broad
>>>> spectrum of interests and need in many parts of the world.
>>>>
>>>> My comment about closing doors I suppose stems from a concern that by
>>>> focussing on just one perspective (ALS) at ICANN a chapter may limit the
>>>> work needed to build engagement across the entire piece.
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John More wrote:
>>>>> Involvement as an ALS in the ALAC structure of ICANN does not require
>>>>> payment and is not funded by ICANN. Members of not only ISOC-DC but
>>>>> of other ISOC Chapters around the world are here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not understand why you would think that involvement means there
>>>>> is any “closing the door”. It is rather opening the door for
>>>>> collaboration and involvement in policies of importance to the
>>>>> Internet and our membership. Finally the Chapter IS an ALS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this answers your question.
>>>>>
>>>>> John More
>>>>>
>>>>> John More
>>>>> Co-Convenor & Treasurer
>>>>> The Greater Washington DC Chapter
>>>>> of the Internet Society
>>>>> 202-256-1515
>>>>> morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> SCANNED BY NORTON ANTI-VIRUS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> PS NPOC means “Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns”. Shows I am
>>>>> still a Newcomer to the ICANN world.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 2:29 PM, Christian de Larrinaga
>>>>>> <cdel at firsthand.net
>>>>>> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's an interesting turn of phrase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "ISOC Chapters are here AS At-Large Structures" (my caps of as) .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see how chapters might wish to support activities for their local
>>>>>> community to engage with global topics and for that reason foster an
>>>>>> ALS. But not at the cost of closing the door to any number of other
>>>>>> interests important for their community whether they are for profit
>>>>>> or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can an ALS really speak as and for your chapter all the time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also how does this work out financially? Does ISOC support
>>>>>> engagement as
>>>>>> an ALS or is your local membership supporting the presence at ICANN as
>>>>>> the Chapter/ALS or is this actually being funded by a third party
>>>>>> entity
>>>>>> such as ICANN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C
>>>>>> John More wrote:
>>>>>>> ISOC Chapters are here as At-Large Structures (ALSes) or involved in
>>>>>>> the Non-Profit Organizations Council (NPOC).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John More
>>>>>>> ISOC-DC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 3:59 AM, Christian de Larrinaga
>>>>>>>> <cdel at firsthand.net
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to understand why an ISOC chapter would represent
>>>>>>>> itself at
>>>>>>>> an ICANN meeting other than act as a local host community?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> what lowers ISOC's participation stature in the ICANN environment is
>>>>>>>>> lack of adhesion to principles (if it happens), lack of coherence
>>>>>>>>> among representatives/members (if it happens), and low quality of
>>>>>>>>> contributions (if it happens.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I fully agree with others that a SIG is not the only option,
>>>>>>>>> maybe not
>>>>>>>>> even the best; but then, we must make ourselves responsible for
>>>>>>>>> coordination among... our very own selves!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:42 AM, Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> <6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>>>>>> <apisanty at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as some of us may remember, the first ISOC-in-ICANN meetings
>>>>>>>>> (2009) had as a clear objective the avoidance of surprises
>>>>>>>>> among us. We would often find that some chapters were
>>>>>>>>> supporting opposed options in ICANN policy. Coordination would
>>>>>>>>> be good but surprise avoidance is not a bad second best. For
>>>>>>>>> that purpose, an informal conversation is not bad but an
>>>>>>>>> agenda is much better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At this ICANN meeting there is a big chance of ISOC losing
>>>>>>>>> ground because of insuffcient coordination on key issues like
>>>>>>>>> GDPR and whois, where we can expect European chapters to hold
>>>>>>>>> a strong pro-GDPR position, and a wider spectrum among others.
>>>>>>>>> In general in ICANN ISOC chapters should, IMO, strive for
>>>>>>>>> focus on technical grounding of all decisions; prioritizing
>>>>>>>>> the stable, secure, robust and resilient operation of the DNS
>>>>>>>>> and other coordinated identifier systems, esp. vis-a-vis
>>>>>>>>> market creation; fight against mission creep (unnecessary
>>>>>>>>> expansion of ICANN activities beyond its mission); support
>>>>>>>>> transparency of all organizations (not only ICANN Board and
>>>>>>>>> staff but for example At Large member organizations); and
>>>>>>>>> contribute to organizational clarity (including: ICANN's
>>>>>>>>> reserves and budget; Reviews; the broader consequences of the
>>>>>>>>> IANA transition and the restructuring that has been following
>>>>>>>>> it.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A very good example of what can go wrong is being actively
>>>>>>>>> provided in LACRALO.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe an ICANN-interest SIG of ISOC chapters would be the
>>>>>>>>> necessary organizational form we need to adopt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't feel that it is right to form this as an interest group
>>>>>>>>> or SIG. That actually lowers the ISOC participation stature.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please contact me offlist if there is any interest to follow
>>>>>>>>> up on such an idea. The name and focus does not have to be
>>>>>>>>> "ICANN" as we have more-general concerns included in all of
>>>>>>>>> the above.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will not be attending the meeting but will gladly convey
>>>>>>>>> information about an ISOC chapters-and-members meeting to our
>>>>>>>>> Chair and members so they can attend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:10 PM, Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>> <6.Internet at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com> <mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am from ISOC India Chennai Chapter. I feel that we
>>>>>>>>> should have our usual ISOC at ICANN meeting, without a set
>>>>>>>>> pattern of a formal meeting, but as a meeting that
>>>>>>>>> encourages an informal conversation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Kiden
>>>>>>>>> <skiden at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com> <mailto:skiden at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> SIG Women and ISOC Uganda also represented.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, we need a meet and greet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 17:26 Susannah Gray
>>>>>>>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/03/2018 17:21, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Some Nigeria Chapter members(like myself) are
>>>>>>>>>> here as well, will be good to meet (if there is
>>>>>>>>>> an agenda)
>>>>>>>>> - At this late stage I assume it will need to be
>>>>>>>>> more of a social/meet 'n greet type thing!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Susannah
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Olga Cavalli
>>>>>>>>>> <olgacavalli at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:olgacavalli at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> some members of the ISOC Argentina chapter we
>>>>>>>>>> are here as well.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets organize someting!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Proposals?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>> Olga
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2018-03-10 16:49 GMT-04:00 Susannah Gray
>>>>>>>>>> <susannah.gray at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:susannah.gray at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm here from the SF Bay Area Chapter, as
>>>>>>>>>> is Leah Symekher (previous President,
>>>>>>>>>> current project leader).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be great to organise an informal
>>>>>>>>>> meeting at some point so we can all say
>>>>>>>>>> hi to each other!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Susannah
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> President
>>>>>>>>>> San Francisco Bay Area Internet Society
>>>>>>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>>>>>> www.sfbayisoc.org
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org <http://www.sfbayisoc.org/>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org/> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.sfbayisoc.org/>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/03/2018 16:24, Lance Hinds wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The Interim Chair and Secretary of
>>>>>>>>>>> ISOC-Guyana are currently in attendance
>>>>>>>>>>> at ICANN61
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:47 PM Hans
>>>>>>>>>>> Petter Holen <hph at oslo.net
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:hph at oslo.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The treasurer of ISOC Norway Chapter
>>>>>>>>>>> will be there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -hph
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 14:45, Flávio
>>>>>>>>>>> Rech Wagner <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am the President of the Brazil
>>>>>>>>>>> Chapter and I am also here in
>>>>>>>>>>> San Juan.
>>>>>>>>>>> Also Demi Getschko, the
>>>>>>>>>>> Vice-President of our Chapter,
>>>>>>>>>>> is here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Flavio
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Às 16:41 de 10/03/2018,
>>>>>>>>>>> Christine Arida escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am from the Chapter of Egypt
>>>>>>>>>>> (board member) and am here in
>>>>>>>>>>> San Juan attending ICANN61 ..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Christine Arida
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>]
>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Patrik Fältström
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018
>>>>>>>>>>> 9:35 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Yrjö Länsipuro
>>>>>>>>>>> <yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:yrjo_lansipuro at hotmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>>>>>>>>> <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN 61
>>>>>>>>>>>> From Internet of Food SIG
>>>>>>>>>>> leadership, I am at ICANN61.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrik
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 15:06, Yrjö
>>>>>>>>>>> Länsipuro wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Finnish Chapter
>>>>>>>>>>> there are at least Juhani
>>>>>>>>>>> Juselius (the new President) and
>>>>>>>>>>> myself attending.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yrjö
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Chapter-delegates
>>>>>>>>>>> <chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behalf of Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>>>>>> <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 10,
>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 8:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Layal Jebran
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>>>>> [Chapter-delegates] ISOC @
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN 61
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A few board members are
>>>>>>>>>>> attending.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olga, Glenn, John Levine and
>>>>>>>>>>> Alice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please outreach to us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> G
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glenn McKnight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> NARALO Secretariat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com><mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> skype gmcknight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twitter gmcknight
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 289-830 6259
>>>>>>>>>>> <tel:02898%20306%20259>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:30
>>>>>>>>>>> PM, Layal Jebran
>>>>>>>>>>> <me at layaljebran.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com><mailto:me at layaljebran.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:me at layaljebran.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’m also attending as an
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN fellow. I don’t believe
>>>>>>>>>>> there’s an ISOC social. But we
>>>>>>>>>>> can all meet, there are so many
>>>>>>>>>>> ISOC-ers here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 17:16,
>>>>>>>>>>> JOHN MORE <morej1 at mac.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com><mailto:morej1 at mac.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISOC-DC also has a number
>>>>>>>>>>> attending. No social I am
>>>>>>>>>>> aware of.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:10 PM,
>>>>>>>>>>> Joly MacFie
>>>>>>>>>>> <joly at punkcast.com <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com><mailto:joly at punkcast.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:joly at punkcast.com>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISOC-NY has three members
>>>>>>>>>>> participating (that I know of)
>>>>>>>>>>> in ICANN 61 - Avri Doria, Greg
>>>>>>>>>>> Shatan, and Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>> Crepin-Leblonde.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will there be an ISOC social?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joly MacFie 218 565
>>>>>>>>>>> 9365<tel:(218)%20565-9365>
>>>>>>>>>>> <tel:%28218%29%20565-9365>
>>>>>>>>>>> Skype:punkcast
>>>>>>>>>>> <skype:punkcast> <skype:punkcast>
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