[Chapter-delegates] Chapters Advisory Council : Board response to ChAC recommendation regarding adding a new section 13 to the bylaws

Wed Apr 4 05:38:28 PDT 2018

I agree.

John More

John More
Co-Convenor & Treasurer
The Greater Washington DC Chapter 
       of the Internet Society
202-256-1515
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> On Apr 4, 2018, at 4:23 AM, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch> wrote:
> 
> Dear Gonzalo,
>  
> Thanks for this. Indeed the fact that there are several lists has created some confusion.
>  
> As I understand it, posts to INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaderscommunity at ConnectedCommunity.org <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaderscommunity at ConnectedCommunity.org> and to chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> have the same effect. They go to the same people.
>  
> Posts to INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at ConnectedCommunity.org <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at ConnectedCommunity.org> go only to the members of the Chapters Advisory Council.
>  
> Since the Recommendations were submitted by the ChAC, I think that it would be procedurally correct to discuss them on that list.
>  
> However, in the interests of transparency, I would have no objection to including in CC the chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>.
>  
> What do others think?
>  
> Best,
> Richard
>  
> From: Gonzalo Camarillo via Internet Society [mailto:Mail at ConnectedCommunity.org <mailto:Mail at ConnectedCommunity.org>] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 20:53
> To: rhill at hill-a.ch <mailto:rhill at hill-a.ch>
> Subject: RE: Chapters Advisory Council : Board response to ChAC recommendation regarding adding a new section 13 to the bylaws
>  
> Hi Richard, following up on my email below, please note that all trustees are automatically subscribed to: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org> ... -posted to the "Chapters Advisory Council" community
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> Gonzalo Camarillo  <https://connect.internetsociety.org/network/members/profile?UserKey=63446e05-7320-4627-b08a-cad747d09241>
> Hi Richard,
> 
> following up on my email below, please note that all trustees are
> automatically subscribed to:
> 
> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> 
> Nevertheless, we are now discussing your recommendations at:
> 
> INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at ConnectedCommunity.org <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil at ConnectedCommunity.org>
> 
> There are other chapters-related lists, such as:
> 
> INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaderscommunity at ConnectedCommunity.org <mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapterleaderscommunity at ConnectedCommunity.org>
> 
> Where do you want to discuss this type of request in the future? Shall
> we simply use the chapter delegates list so that all trustees are in the
> loop as well and all discussions are more transparent to the community?
> Please, advice. Thanks!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo
> 
> On 03/04/2018 3:08 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> > thanks for your proposal to add a new section 13 to the bylaws. Per my
> > email to you and this same list earlier today regarding building and
> > declaring consensus within the ChAC, we agree that understanding the
> > "interest of ISOC as a whole" is extremely important. I am sure you will
> > find ways to engage the chapters community in the relevant discussions.
> > Again, if you need board support any any time, do not hesitate to reach out.
> > 
> > Please, note that all trustees are indeed automatically subscribed to
> > the mailing lists mentioned in the recommendation. In addition, as you
> > know, many trustees regularly attend IETF meetings, ICANN meetings, IGF
> > meetings, etc., where they interact with different parts of the ISOC
> > community. Also, the minutes of every board meeting have always
> > included, for every resolution, how each trustee voted on it.
> > 
> > Therefore, what you ask for in your recommendation seems to be already
> > in place. Whether a particular trustee is more or less active
> > communicating with a given community is a function of the trustee's own
> > personality, time constrains, working style, etc... and the communities
> > elect or select them as trustees based on those traits.
> > 
> > Also related to how trustees interact with the community, as you also
> > know, the board started organizing open forum sessions where the
> > community could talk directly to the board. The interest in those
> > sessions by the community have been underwhelming so far. As a result,
> > we have set up a team within the board to work on such sessions so that
> > we can make the best out of them. We believe they will be an additional
> > good channel for the community and the board to talk to each other.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Gonzalo
> >
> 
> ------Original Message------
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> thanks for your proposal to add a new section 13 to the bylaws. Per my
> email to you and this same list earlier today regarding building and
> declaring consensus within the ChAC, we agree that understanding the
> "interest of ISOC as a whole" is extremely important. I am sure you will
> find ways to engage the chapters community in the relevant discussions.
> Again, if you need board support any any time, do not hesitate to reach out.
> 
> Please, note that all trustees are indeed automatically subscribed to
> the mailing lists mentioned in the recommendation. In addition, as you
> know, many trustees regularly attend IETF meetings, ICANN meetings, IGF
> meetings, etc., where they interact with different parts of the ISOC
> community. Also, the minutes of every board meeting have always
> included, for every resolution, how each trustee voted on it.
> 
> Therefore, what you ask for in your recommendation seems to be already
> in place. Whether a particular trustee is more or less active
> communicating with a given community is a function of the trustee's own
> personality, time constrains, working style, etc... and the communities
> elect or select them as trustees based on those traits.
> 
> Also related to how trustees interact with the community, as you also
> know, the board started organizing open forum sessions where the
> community could talk directly to the board. The interest in those
> sessions by the community have been underwhelming so far. As a result,
> we have set up a team within the board to work on such sessions so that
> we can make the best out of them. We believe they will be an additional
> good channel for the community and the board to talk to each other.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gonzalo 
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