[Chapter-delegates] ISOC donations/Beyond the Net

[Winthrop Yu]

   +1 Evan re: "under the radar", instead we provide verbal updates to our 
regional bureau people when we catch-up with them.

   As for reports about events -- if they are funded, then there is already a 
reporting requirement per funded event/project. Even if not funded, why make it 
a mandatory provision in the Chapter's agreement.

   We are still going through the agreement and have to discuss it within the 
chapter. Is there a possibility that the August 31 deadline for comments can be 
extended?

WYn



On 8/10/2017 9:37 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
> On 10 August 2017 at 08:51, John More <morej1 at mac.com <mailto:morej1 at mac.com>>wrote:
> 
>     I would agree that the specification that the promotion be made to
>     “community leaders, press and regulators” presents problems and should be
>     changed.  I would have thought it sufficient to require activity in support
>     of ISOC’s general purposes and leave it to the Chapters to determine what
>     was an appropriate and allowable purpose.
> 
> 
> ​​Agreed. It is possible that even when Chapters *do* want to do such advocacy, 
> they may need to keep it low-key and take care not to be on the wrong radars.
> 
> ​Language regarding localization and promotion of the ISOC mission 
> <https://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/mission> is IMO sufficient 
> stated-out-loud direction.
> 
>     The purpose is to deal with zombie Chapters where all you have is a
>     leadership that does nothing except perhaps promote itself.
> 
> 
> ​Even self-promotion (/for the Chapter/) is not necessarily a bad idea, because 
> promoting the Chapter (leading to local registration in the global ISOC member 
> DB) ​equates by association to promoting the ISOC mission. It's not much, but 
> definitely non-zero.
> 
> What I think you are aiming at (and please tell me if I'm not) is (ab)use of 
> Chapter names, titles, status and resources for nothing more than the 
> resumé-building and personal advancement of otherwise-inactive "leaders". This 
> is a genuine problem I have seen myself, though I am at a a short-term loss to 
> suggest verbiage to address it.
> 
>     I also find objectionable the requirement for informing staff within 30 days
>     of completion of an activity/event.  Why not just provide evidence annually
>     about activities (including by newsletter, copies of event announcements).
> 
> 
> ​Agreed.​
> 
> -- 
> Evan Leibovitch
> ​Canada Chapter
> 
> 
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