[Chapter-delegates] Revised Chapter Agreement

[Glenn McKnight]

Hi
Perhaps I am missing something here, I don't think the MOU wants to put the
chapters in harms-way but rather local spokespersons on local Internet
issues.  Clearly the locals know the political climate in their own
countries and need to function with discretion.
G

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On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Amir Qayyum <qayyum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I missed this point initially ... Thanks Siva and Brandt for raising
> it in explicit words.
>
> For our Islamabad Chapter, even a slight reference to "lobbying" for a
> foreign entity will create lot of opposition and hurdles for us, and
> will make it very difficult to operate locally.
>
> Amir
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Very pertinent observation. In India, it would get Chapters in a
> > dangerous situation. First of all, speaking for the India Chennai
> > Chapter alone, I would NOT agree at all to any expectations of
> > lobbying for any position by ISOC. What we do at Chennai is to broadly
> > understand the Internet Society's mission, which we agree with fully,
> > and work ON OUR OWN, in our own ways, independently on position and
> > projects that would further the evolution of the Internet along the
> > lines. Drop the idea of expecting Chapters to lobby for positions that
> > invariably emerge mostly from Staff deliberations.
> >
> > --- Sivasubramanain M
> >
> >>
> >> To be balanced, there should be some reciprocal reaching out by central
> office - such as better communication and listening to chapters.  For
> example, this document should have been put to the chapters as a discussion
> document for feedback months before it was finalised.  The fact it was not
> indicates ISOC is anti-democratic, and run by a small central group who, in
> my view, have failed to recognise ISOC is not the same type of organisation
> as it was 10-20 years ago.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Brandt Dainow
> >> brandt.dainow at gmail.com
> >>
> >> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brandt_Dainow
> >> http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/brandt.dainow
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-
> bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Alan Levin
> >> Sent: 02 August 2017 08:56
> >> To: Joyce Dogniez; ISOC Chapter Delegates; chapter-support at isoc.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Revised Chapter Agreement
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>> On 31 Jul 2017, at 12:06 PM, Joyce Dogniez <dogniez at isoc.org> wrote:
> >>> With the increased financial support to our Chapters we also have an
> increased responsibility and accountability towards our community. It is
> the responsibility of Internet Society s leadership to manage its funds in
> a responsible and transparent manner.
> >>> This implies that the legal relationship between Internet Society and
> its Chapters needs to be well defined.
> >>
> >> Thanks for this. I think it s very good!  Well done Joyce and others :)
> >>
> >>>   Purpose of Chapter.
> >>> The purpose of the Chapter shall be to support the Internet Society s
> vision, mission, and operating principles in the Territory.
> >>
> >> I agree that this is one purpose of the Internet Society of South
> Africa, and the purpose of this agreement :)
> >>
> >> One of our primary purposes as an association of Internet Society
> members, is to participate in the ICT policy making processes in our
> country. Another purpose is to assist our colleagues in other countries
> with their policy making in that country.
> >>
> >> We have asked for over a decade for global support on national policy
> making activities. I have suggested that a policy analyst who can compare
> various trending policies to be able to provide us with important
> international data about other policies in other countries of similar
> nature. For example we have a Cybersecurity Bill in our Parliamentary
> process and it will be invaluable to see an analysis of it s components
> compared to other countries that have already been through that process,
> ideally not a US centric or  North  view, something neutral would be ideal.
> >>
> >> So regards this section:
> >>> Internet Society Support.
> >>> The Internet Society will provide the following support to the
> chapters in accordance with ISOC s annual business plan:
> >>
> >> I suggest again that we need support from ISOC Global to provide a
> global policy analyst to assist with support on National Policy Making
> activities. This should not be a local activity, it s not regional, it's a
> global policy analyst  activity need that we have had for decades. Please
> help !
> >>
> >> Sincerely
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan Levin
> >> ISOC-ZA
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