[Chapter-delegates] UK Bill

[Christian de Larrinaga]

A couple of points.

- 3 UK Parliamentary committees made substantial critiques of the draft
Bill which were very largely ignored by the Government.
- The Bill once enacted is liable to be challenged in court. Its
antecedent DRIPA which is far less prescriptive than IP Bill was found
to be illegal in ECJ. (source ORG, Liberty, The Guardian)

On the point of the complacency of the general population to being
deeply interfered with by the *public sector and their private
contractors. I think the public have not really been given the
information they need to evaluate these issues and are essentially
delegating the decisions at this time. It is likely that will change
when actions under these laws start to force unexpected emergent
behaviours (abuses).  But this is a slow burn evolutionary force on the
current mindset.

It remains to be seen if the Bill's provisions to interfere with digital
security not only within UK but for traffic and services passing through
it (and elsewhere I gather) creates a disincentive. To some extent that
will I think depend on how other countries behave. If countries create
laws that give greater protections to parties conducting lawful
communications then the UK digital economy will have a major competitive
disadvantage. This is something EU countries in particular are now well
positioned for as UK hobbles into Brexit.

* It needs to be emphasised that the usage data and the equipment and
software interference is being handled on orders of myriad and likely
growing population of public agencies (not just police and national
security agencies) and much of this is likely to be handled by the ever
increasing dependency of government services on private sector
contractors using official secrecy and gagging laws to cover tracks.

As vulnerabilities are introduced and forgotten about and other
vulnerable tech added on top and forgotten about one wonders what
possibly could go wrong? |-(

C


Richard Hill wrote:
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> Sadly, the situation that Olivier describes seems not to be limited to
> the UK.  As I mentioned previously, the referendum against the new
> Swiss surveillance law was rejected by a large majority of voters.
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> Best,
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> Richard
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> *From:*Chapter-delegates
> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 22, 2016 00:43
> *To:* Glenn McKnight; ISOC Chapter Delegates
> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] UK Bill
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> Thank you Glenn.
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> It is worth noting that ISOC ItUK England tried to make quite some
> noise about this bill yet it appears that we were shouting in the
> desert. People are more interested in other things these days. 
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> Kindest regards, 
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> Olivier
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> Sent from my Samsung device
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
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> Date: 21/11/2016 9:19 pm (GMT+00:00)
> To: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
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> Subject: [Chapter-delegates] UK Bill
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> *UK  New  Bill *
> <http://www.smash.com/uk-passes-snoopers-charter-bill-edward-snowden-calls-extreme-surveillance-history-western-democracy/>
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> UK Passes Snooper’s Charter Bill, Edward Snowden Calls It ‘Most
> Extreme Surveillance in the History of Western Democracy’
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> It’s official title is the Investigatory Powers Bill and it’s a huge
> expansion of the British government’s surveillance powers, the biggest
> overhaul in a decade. The bill has been heavily criticized by human
> rights organizations like Liberty
> <http://www.smash.com/uk-parliament-want-rush-bill-allowing-mass-government-surveillance-snooperscharter/> who
> have said it will effectively “all but end online privacy.”
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