[Chapter-delegates] Elections, Polls, Electorate

[borka at e5.ijs.si]

Dear all,

According to the legislation in our country non-for-profit association
can accept   members  only if they declare in writting  or on the
meeting that they accept the  chapter Bylaws  (this document  must 
beapproved by the legal local authorities). So, we had restricted the
mailing  list of the ISOC.SI 
members to few dozen compared to the list residuing on the  AMS page ( 
with many not 
veryfied people from abroad without any sign that they  are interested or
are following our work). Being heavily criticized for not including these
people we enlarged the current mailing list, but this did not solved
the problem, some of the addresses are not working (returned mail), but
I am sure as wel as that most of the mails to these people are just lost 
"in the  space". So, following the exchange of the opinions on this list 
regarding that
problem among ISOC members it is a time this issue to be further
elaborated and more real approach to the ISOC membership in line
with national attitudes to be adopted, especially if we take in
account the current number of ISOC members.

With regards,

Borka




On Tue, 15 Mar 2016, Ricardo Holmquist wrote:

> Dear Olivier,In our chapter we do only acept the members whose address are
> in the country, or the citizens of the country living abroad. This rules are
> in our statutes.
> 
> Yes we do have the problem with the ISOC membership, since ISOC "only"
> requires a valid email address, maybe this was useful 20 years ago, with
> very few free email systems, nowadays, you might enter with 10 different
> emails, most chapters do not charge, global ISOC do not charge. I do expect
> that someday ISOC changes that, and requires more info, like country,
> address (at least a city), full name, clearly indicate that it must be a
> natural person, not a company (and if you are a company enter as a
> company). 
> 
> ISOC has now like 100.000 members, and by the efforts of chapters and global
> ISOC is recognized worlwide, so lets get serious about our membership, some
> days we need to look back and really now who are we representing when we
> speak as organized civil society.
> 
> Excellent idea the poll previous to the elections!.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Ricardo Holmquist
> 
> On Tuesday, 15 March 2016, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>       Dear all,
>
>       when it comes to the forthcoming elections, our chapter has in
>       the past
>       conducted straw polls of our "members" to give our leadership
>       team a
>       better idea of the candidate the Chapter should support.
>
>       We do not charge fees and have over 3000 "members" both in the
>       UK and
>       abroad. I use the quotation mark because the membership is
>       listed on the
>       Internet Society AMS system, as people who are interested in the
>       UK
>       Chapter's activities.
>
>       Recently the question arose in our chapter as to who were our
>       Chapter's
>       electorate. Is it the 3000+ names listed in the AMS system? Some
>       might
>       say that it is not, since these names are unverified. Half of
>       these
>       names are based abroad. So, if your chapter is without paid
>       members, how
>       do you define your Chapter's electorate?
>
>       Kindest regards,
>
>       Olivier
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