[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
Winthrop Yu
w.yu at gmx.net
Wed Jul 13 04:55:05 PDT 2016
+1 John
On 7/13/2016 7:48 PM, John More wrote:
> I think that categories are being mixed. There should be support for the
> creation of the next generation of leaders. There also should be support for
> long-term leaders. Probably better not to include them in the same program.
>
> John More
>> On Jul 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com
>> <mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> It is important to move away from the tendency to exclude long term ISOC
>> participants. Inclusion, in SIGNIFICANT number, of the long term participants
>> would ensure the continuation of independent and diverse community
>> perspectives, ensure a fair reflection of Chapter and member perspectives in
>> ISOC policy positions. Also, it would make it possible for the next generation
>> of ISOC and IG participants to be inspired and mentored by long term Chapter
>> leaders of commitment to the Internet.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
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>> On Wednesday, July 13, 2016, Richard Hill <rhill at hill-a.ch
>> <mailto:rhill at hill-a.ch>> wrote:
>>
>> I will input this to the ChAC Steering Committee.____
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>>
>> Best,____
>>
>> Richard____
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>> *From:* Chapter-delegates
>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] *On Behalf Of *Hosein
>> Badran
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2016 09:21
>> *To:* Olga Cavalli; Sivasubramanian M
>> *Cc:* Chapter Delegates
>> *Subject:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open____
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>> Dear All,____
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>> following this great discussion, I would like to propose that the Ch
>> Advisory working group takes a close look at the various initiatives
>> offered by ISOC, targeted at helping chapters on capacity building for IG,
>> not only the NextGen Leaders and IGF Ambassador programs.____
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>> This will shed light on the existence and value of these initiatives, and
>> help address potential improvement areas.____
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>> Raul has listed many os these - thanks a lot Raul, and I am sure ISOC
>> staff can provide further information as needed.____
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>> I am happy to contribute in this effort if needed.____
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>> While I fully support programs aimed at specifically young potential
>> leaders, other programs should allow the full membership to gain benefit.____
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>> All the best,____
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>> Hosein Badran. ____
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>> From: olgacavalli at gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 23:00:54 -0300
>> To: isolatedn at gmail.com
>> CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open____
>>
>> Thanks Siva,____
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>> you read my mind!____
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>> There is a strong support to the idea that the rules should be revised,
>> specially the limit of the 40+____
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>> Hopefuly this will be taken in consideration.____
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>> Regards to all____
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>> Olga____
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>> 2016-07-12 17:30 GMT-03:00 Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>:____
>>
>> Surprised that after all this discussion on the list, the criteria remains
>> rigid as framed.____
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>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Laurie Patton <ceo at internet.org.au> wrote:____
>>
>> So you are only interested in new leaders if they are under 40 then?____
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>> Thanks for making me feel so welcome!
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>> LAURIE PATTON____
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>> Chief Executive Officer | Internet Australia____
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>> On 8 Jul 2016, at 16:26, Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com> wrote:____
>>
>> +1 Alejandro,____
>>
>> The IGF Ambassadors program is under the Next Generation Leaders
>> Programme,
>> https://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders-ngl-programme____
>>
>> It makes full sense to target younger potential applicants. ____
>>
>> Interesting to see many of those got involved into the Next Generation
>> Leaders progarmme are leaders in their respective positions.____
>>
>> Nadira____
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>> On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:18 AM, Alejandro Pisanty
>> <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:____
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>> Hi,____
>>
>> before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained
>> about ageism yet?____
>>
>> This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at
>> least have been fulfilled successfully.____
>>
>> The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and
>> experience has a strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same
>> set of people again and again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle.
>> (who has more experience and more extensive networks than those who
>> have attended most meetings?____
>>
>> Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.____
>>
>> The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least
>> in our chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF,
>> and ICANN meetings have not only acquired knowledge and experience but
>> also networks of their own, with a younger generation as well as with
>> the old, with grassroots as well as with staff. Bringing in insights
>> about today's Internet and looking into its future, strongly
>> committed, highly motivated.. just what we were 15 or 20 years ago!!____
>>
>> Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three
>> layers deep, of people who can and *will* take the reins of the
>> Chapter in the near future. So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually
>> helping our succession planning - isnt' that a major responsibility we
>> have in chapters? - for free! ____
>>
>> Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for
>> the most experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a
>> Trustee, it's upon you (you have the power to change the things you do
>> not like and to deliver on the promise your statement implies), and on
>> whoever succeeds you very soon in your position in the Chapter
>> Advisory Council as well.) (I'm sure the CHAC is also considering
>> this issue.)
>>
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>> Yours,____
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>> Alejandro Pisanty____
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>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com>
>> wrote:____
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>> +1____
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>> +50____
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>> David Vyorst____
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>> Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies____
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>> 202.841.2400____
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>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:____
>>
>> Thank you very much Glenn,____
>>
>> Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have to
>> work hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from
>> the former fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in
>> ISOC, but in some other I Organizations, where it is not written, but
>> at the end is the main criteria. ____
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>> Best____
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>> Ricardo Holmquist
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>> El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>
>> escribió:____
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>> The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for IGF Mexico.____
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>> Note the limitations ____
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>> Selection criteria____
>>
>> IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have a
>> strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF. Ambassadorship
>> awards are available for first-time and returning
>> ambassadors. Selection for the Ambassadorships is competitive. All
>> applicants must be: ____
>>
>> * *_between the ages of 20 and 40_*____
>> * a member of the Internet Society ____
>> * able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting____
>> * able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
>> agenda____
>> * able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
>> discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural
>> environments____
>> * capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
>> views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF____
>> * capable of continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
>> after the IGF.____
>>
>> I am curious how the */Internet is for Everyone, /*but why does
>> ISOC continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old.
>> Interesting since ARIN Fellowship or ICANN has removed this obvious
>> discrimination against dedicated volunteers____
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>> I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
>> chapters after the IGF. ____
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>> Recently at ICANN we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
>> self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for
>> World Least Developed economies- this has meant that US territories
>> in the South Pacific, first Nations, poor and rural Americans were
>> not eligible. We have stated for years that this is unfair to
>> Canadian and US first nations/indigenous ( can be treated as
>> independent tribal governments) . ICANN is now reexamining their
>> criteria with a noteworthy change to allow first nations people to
>> participate. ____
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>> Does anyone else feel that ISOC's ambassador program suffers from
>> ageism?____
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>> Glenn____
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>> Glenn____
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>> Glenn McKnight
>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>> skype gmcknight
>> twitter gmcknight
>> .____
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