[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open
Alejandro Pisanty
apisanty at gmail.com
Thu Jul 7 19:18:49 PDT 2016
Wyn,
indeed. That may be why the program is called NextGen, right? Not
"SolveAll", NextGen.
We do have other problems and need different tools. And all work better
when we act from co-responsibility.
Alejandro Pisanty
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net> wrote:
> +1 Alejandro.
>
> I understand the ageism point and how this may tend to disadvantage
> experienced and dedicated volunteers. OTOH, shouldn't we be building
> experience and encouraging dedication in NextGen? Would a criterion such
> as: "preferably should not have previously represented the chapter at a
> similar event" (AsPac criterion for regional chapter workshop) be workable?
> I realize that such a criterion may impact "continuity", but then shouldn't
> we be encouraging continutiy not only with the work, but also, perhaps more
> importantly, with the pool of people able and willing to do the work?
>
> Wyn
> > 50 :)
>
>
>
> On 7/8/2016 5:18 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained about
>> ageism yet?
>>
>> This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at
>> least have
>> been fulfilled successfully.
>>
>> The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and experience
>> has a
>> strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same set of people again
>> and
>> again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle. (who has more experience and
>> more
>> extensive networks than those who have attended most meetings?
>>
>> Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.
>>
>> The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least in
>> our
>> chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF, and ICANN
>> meetings
>> have not only acquired knowledge and experience but also networks of
>> their own,
>> with a younger generation as well as with the old, with grassroots as
>> well as
>> with staff. Bringing in insights about today's Internet and looking into
>> its
>> future, strongly committed, highly motivated.. just what we were 15 or 20
>> years
>> ago!!
>>
>> Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three layers
>> deep,
>> of people who can and *will* take the reins of the Chapter in the near
>> future.
>> So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually helping our succession planning
>> -
>> isnt' that a major responsibility we have in chapters? - for free!
>>
>> Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for the
>> most
>> experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a Trustee, it's
>> upon you
>> (you have the power to change the things you do not like and to deliver
>> on the
>> promise your statement implies), and on whoever succeeds you very soon in
>> your
>> position in the Chapter Advisory Council as well.) (I'm sure the CHAC is
>> also
>> considering this issue.)
>>
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com
>> <mailto:dvyorst at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>> +50
>>
>>
>> David Vyorst
>> Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies
>>
>> www.relaystationmedia.com <http://www.relaystationmedia.com>
>> 202.841.2400
>> @dvyo
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com
>> <mailto:rihogris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you very much Glenn,
>> Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have
>> to work
>> hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from the
>> former fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in
>> ISOC, but
>> in some other I Organizations, where it is not written, but at
>> the end
>> is the main criteria.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Ricardo Holmquist
>>
>> El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <
>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>> escribió:
>>
>> The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for IGF Mexico.
>>
>> Note the limitations
>> Selection criteria
>>
>> IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members
>> who have
>> a strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF.
>> Ambassadorship awards are available for first-time and
>> returning
>> ambassadors. Selection for the Ambassadorships is
>> competitive. All
>> applicants must be:
>>
>> * *_between the ages of 20 and 40_*
>> * a member of the Internet Society
>> * able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF
>> meeting
>> * able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on
>> the IGF
>> agenda
>> * able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet
>> governance
>> discussions at the international level and in
>> multi-cultural
>> environments
>> * capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society
>> and its
>> views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
>> * capable of continuing to work with the Internet Society
>> locally
>> after the IGF.
>>
>> I am curious how the */Internet is for Everyone, /*but
>> why does
>> ISOC continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years
>> old.
>> Interesting since ARIN Fellowship or ICANN has removed this
>> obvious discrimination against dedicated volunteers
>>
>> I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with
>> the local
>> chapters after the IGF.
>>
>> Recently at ICANN we reviewed all the fellows based upon
>> their
>> self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been
>> for
>> World Least Developed economies- this has meant that US
>> territories in the South Pacific, first Nations, poor and
>> rural
>> Americans were not eligible. We have stated for years
>> that this
>> is unfair to Canadian and US first nations/indigenous ( can
>> be
>> treated as independent tribal governments) . ICANN is now
>> reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy change to allow
>> first
>> nations people to participate.
>>
>> Does anyone else feel that ISOC's ambassador program
>> suffers from
>> ageism?
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> Glenn McKnight
>> mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>> skype gmcknight
>> twitter gmcknight
>> .
>>
>>
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