[Chapter-delegates] IGF Ambassadorship Open

[Winthrop Yu]

   +1 Alejandro.

   I understand the ageism point and how this may tend to disadvantage 
experienced and dedicated volunteers. OTOH, shouldn't we be building experience 
and encouraging dedication in NextGen?  Would a criterion such as: "preferably 
should not have previously represented the chapter at a similar event" (AsPac 
criterion for regional chapter workshop) be workable? I realize that such a 
criterion may impact "continuity", but then shouldn't we be encouraging 
continutiy not only with the work, but also, perhaps more importantly, with the 
pool of people able and willing to do the work?

Wyn
 > 50 :)



On 7/8/2016 5:18 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
> Hi,
>
> before everybody gets carried away... has anyone under 40 complained about
> ageism yet?
>
> This policy was established with several purposes and some of them at least have
> been fulfilled successfully.
>
> The premise is that a call based only on grounds of merit and experience has a
> strong incentive to end up selecting largely the same set of people again and
> again, in a self-reinfocing feedback cycle. (who has more experience and more
> extensive networks than those who have attended most meetings?
>
> Fresh insights and new people have to come into our system.
>
> The policy of selecting under-40's has been very successful at least in our
> chapter. The members who have attended workshops, IGFs, IETF, and ICANN meetings
> have not only acquired knowledge and experience but also networks of their own,
> with a younger generation as well as with the old, with grassroots as well as
> with staff. Bringing in insights about today's Internet and looking into its
> future, strongly committed, highly motivated.. just what we were 15 or 20 years
> ago!!
>
> Now thanks to the policy we have a small group, in our case three layers deep,
> of people who can and *will* take the reins of the Chapter in the near future.
> So ISOC's pro-under-40 policy is actually helping our succession planning -
> isnt' that a major responsibility we have in chapters? - for free!
>
> Do we have a problem left to deal with in funding participation for the most
> experienced members? yes, no doubt. Olga, you are now a Trustee, it's upon you
> (you have the power to change the things you do not like and to deliver on the
> promise your statement implies), and on whoever succeeds you very soon in your
> position in the Chapter Advisory Council as well.)  (I'm sure the CHAC is also
> considering this issue.)
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:29 PM, David Vyorst <dvyorst at gmail.com
> <mailto:dvyorst at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     +1
>     +50
>
>
>     David Vyorst
>     Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies
>
>     www.relaystationmedia.com <http://www.relaystationmedia.com>
>     202.841.2400
>     @dvyo
>
>     On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris at gmail.com
>     <mailto:rihogris at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Thank you very much Glenn,
>         Have the same feeling, for the ones over 50 , that actually have to work
>         hard to make the local IGF a reality, with almost no help from the
>         former fellows is discouraging. Hope this changes, not only in ISOC, but
>         in some other I Organizations, where it is not written, but at the end
>         is the main criteria.
>
>         Best
>
>         Ricardo Holmquist
>
>         El Thursday, July 7, 2016, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>         <mailto:mcknight.glenn at gmail.com>> escribió:
>
>             The call for IGF Ambassadors has opened for  IGF Mexico.
>
>             Note the limitations
>             Selection criteria
>
>             IGF Ambassadorships are for young Internet Society members who have
>             a strong interest in the issues and themes of the IGF.
>             Ambassadorship awards are available for first-time and returning
>             ambassadors. Selection for the Ambassadorships is competitive. All
>             applicants must be:
>
>               * *_between the ages of 20 and 40_*
>               * a member of the Internet Society
>               * able to present a strong motivation for attending the IGF meeting
>               * able to demonstrate interest and expertise in issues on the IGF
>                 agenda
>               * able to demonstrate experience in leading Internet governance
>                 discussions at the international level and in multi-cultural
>                 environments
>               * capable of appropriately represent the Internet Society and its
>                 views and policies as an Ambassador during the IGF
>               * capable of  continuing to work with the Internet Society locally
>                 after the IGF.
>
>             I am curious  how  the  */Internet is for  Everyone, /*but why does
>              ISOC  continues to limit the ambassadors to under 40 years old.
>             Interesting since  ARIN  Fellowship or  ICANN has removed this
>             obvious discrimination against dedicated volunteers
>
>             I wonder how many previous candidates actually worked with the local
>             chapters after the IGF.
>
>             Recently at  ICANN  we reviewed all the fellows based upon their
>              self-identified sectors and countries and the bias has been for
>              World Least Developed economies- this has meant that  US
>              territories in the South Pacific,  first Nations,  poor and rural
>              Americans  were not eligible.  We have stated for  years that this
>             is unfair to  Canadian and US  first nations/indigenous ( can be
>             treated as independent tribal governments) .  ICANN is now
>              reexamining their criteria with a noteworthy change to allow first
>             nations people to participate.
>
>             Does anyone else feel  that  ISOC's  ambassador program suffers from
>             ageism?
>
>             Glenn
>
>             Glenn
>
>             Glenn McKnight
>             mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
>             skype  gmcknight
>             twitter gmcknight
>             .
>
>
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