[Chapter-delegates] How do we incorporate China and other countries that are different?

[Louis Houle]

Hi Dave,

And other candidates from China have been considered also during my term 
on the NomCom of ICANN. If they were not elected, it's not an exclusion 
matter. Candidates are considered all alike. Criterias don't come from 
the US Gov.  I find your point of view a little bit short on this, with 
all my respect.

Louis Houle
President
ISOC Quebec
Louis.Houle at isoc.quebec

Le 2016-02-21 23:27, Alejandro Pisanty a écrit :
> Dave,
>
> though this may puncture a balloon, there has been at least one 
> Chinese citizen, national and resident in the ICANN Board.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Dave Burstein <daveb at dslprime.com 
> <mailto:daveb at dslprime.com>> wrote:
>
>     Kathy and folk, with respect
>
>     Using the name Internet Society of CHina is tasteless, but there
>     are much more important issues in this discussion.
>
>     China has twice as many Internet users as the U.S. and the gap is
>     growing at 5-8M users per year. Africa is about to pass 315M
>     Internet users, the entire population of the United States. (Cisco
>     data.) Cheap smartphones are bringing two _billion_ more people to
>     the Internet. We all think that's a great thing.
>
>     *I do not believe Internet governance (or ISOC) can be effective
>     with the majority of world Internet users excluded.* As Ambassador
>     Phil Verveer said to me the night of the ITU WCIT vote, "We must
>     build bridges."
>
>     *It's time for a Nixon Goes to China move for the Internet.
>     *Kathy, Vint or whoever is leading us should be finding a way to
>     work with all nations. Bob Kahn, an Internet Society founder,
>     might be one natural link. He spoke at that conference in China,
>     as did several other Internet Society supporters.
>
>     I'm not blind to how many people starved in the 1950's in China,
>     what happened at Tiananmen Square, or the speech limitations in
>     China today. I'm also not blind to what America did in Vietnam or
>     the $billions being spent to buy the U.S. elections.
>
>     I'm sure we all can make lawyer-like arguments here. But it's
>     missing the key issue. We need to solve the North-South divide
>     about the Internet.
>
>     In Dubai at the WCIT a few hours before that vote, I asked Larry
>     Strickling why the U.S. was fighting so hard over what seemed to
>     me some very minor issues, at most of symbolic value. He looked at
>     me and asked, "Dave, do you want Russia or China to be running the
>     Internet?" We both went back to work.
>
>     Later, I realized I should have said, "Of course I want Russia and
>     China to have a meaningful role. If we continue to exclude them,
>     ultimately the Internet will split."
>
>     I did not know at that time that no Chinese were on the Board of
>     ICANN because that would not be acceptable to the U.S.
>
>     The Internet Society should be leading the way. Excluding China -
>     and so many others - I believe will fail.
>
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>     Which doesn't say anything about whether this is the right way to
>     handle who is a civil society group. That's a side issue. The big
>     question is whether the ICANN board and the decision makers of all
>     important groups here see more than one side of the North South
>     divide.
>
>     Dave Burstein.
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