[Chapter-delegates] New ATLARGE Structure Internet Society China

Nadira Alaraj nadira.araj at gmail.com
Wed Feb 24 03:58:17 PST 2016


Oh Klaus, you took the words from me,
because I was going to write,
for the Internet society it would be much cheaper and more inclusive if
Internet Society of China to be an Internet Society chapter. Particularity
now ISC is in the process of being in the At-large structure.
Historically talking and most of the chapters created in the developing
countries did emerge either through government or private sector affiliated
bodies.
The Internet Society could distance itself from the political scene of its
host country and open up globally.

Best wishes,
Nadira Alaraj
Vice chairperson
Palestine Chapter

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Klaus Birkenbihl <Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>
wrote:

>
> JOHN MORE schrieb am 23.02.2016 um 15:00:
> > +1. And this is not intended to attack Internet Society China, which to
> my knowledge has not attempted to mislead or misuse its name. It is about
> protecting not only ISOC, but all the Chapters and individuals who share
> the Internet Society's vision and name.
>
> Well (I stated this before in a mail that presumably got lost): I remember
> ISOC.DE and a some other chapters met 2003 with a delegation from
> Internet Society China in 2003. They were on a lobbying tour seeking
> support to become recognized as an ISOC chapter. So there is (at least was)
> an interest to be seen as an ISOC chapter.
>
> Things I learned during the few month I spent in China working for W3C:
>
> 1 ISC runs CNNIC.
> 2 ISC is established as an Internet companies association.
> 3 ISC is a government watchdog supervising service providers and Internet
> companies wrt to conformance to blocking/censorship and other regulations
> (“self-disciplinary regulations”).
> 4 ISC was very successful in growing and accelerating Internet throughout
> China.
>
> Though ISC is beneficial for Internet in China in many ways - item 3 IMHO
> disqualifies them from becoming in whatever way affiliated with ISOC.
>
> This said: ISC is one of the most important players in the Internet,
> supervising provision of Internet access for nearly 10% of the global
> population. We have to talk with them and look for opportunities to
> cooperate.
>
> As far as trademark is concerned: the China Trademark Office lists 中国互联网协会
> which translates to Internet Society of China (in 3 different classes,
> whatever that means). I doubt it would generate any benefit to raise a
> trademark issue in this case.
>
> Best, Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Birkenbihl
> Treasurer and Board member
> Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE)
> c/o ict-Media GmbH
> http://www.isoc.de/
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