[Chapter-delegates] New ATLARGE Structure Internet Society China

[Imran Anwar]

I recall those disputes, Vint. Your comment brings up two topics. 

Part of the problem stems from the fact that the USPTO allowed certain generic terms to be trademarked, like Windows, a ™ I believe should never have been issued. 

It would be like giving a bank a trademark on Cash or a fast food place a trademark for Burgers. That gave impetus to others to try to grab common words as trademarks. 

Regarding the Chinese abuse of intellectual property in a seemingly state sponsored way, over my nearly 30 years being an American I've watched with dismay as American firms fall over each other to give away their trade secrets and designs to companies in China, who sometimes literally are already ripping off their IP (intellectual property). 

Without a serious effort by the US government, businesses and organizations like ISOC to protect and enforce our IP things will only get worse. 

Regards,

IMRAN™ 😉

(Disclaimer, I did Enterprise Strategy consulting at clients like DoD & GE for Microsoft Consulting for about 2-3 years but remain a Mac lover 😊). 

> On Feb 21, 2016, at 10:07, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:
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> ISOC of New Zealand also hijacked the Internet Society brand - they eventually rebranded themselves, I believe. I am really unhappy about this kind of thing. I tried for quite a while re NZ and eventually they changed leadership and their attitude. The Chinese have been using the name for a long time without any affiliation. I think it may be hard to get them to stop - the trademark world is rife with cases where failure to defend the mark loses control. The term "Internet" cannot be trademarked except it has to refer to the "network of networks" we call "Internet" (a ten year battle against a banking consortium that was granted the trademark to "Internet" - it cost CNRI ten years and $100K in legal fees and only went away when there was a change in management that didn't think it was worth fighting further.). 
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> I am glad to see that Kathy is going to dig into this further.
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> Kathy, do we have a recorded trademark for "internet society" ?
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>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Folks
>> Recently the  ICANN ATLARGE  voted to include the civil society organization called    Internet Society China into the  ALS membership of APRALO.   They are not a  ISOC  Chapter. 
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>> I have  tried to bring up the issue of  organizations that confuse the public as to what is a legitimate ISOC chapter.  But  no one has  taken notice. 
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>>  I have  been notified  ISOC  that  the  www.isoctoronto.org    has been  a rogue  site for  a few years   I am including a screencapture of the  registration page they have  people  falsely add their information.  
>> We need to have a process of  dealing with these type of  false or rogue sites that  misinform the public.   Since  ISOC is  branding itself as a viable strong organization and it turns a blind eye to this situation we have a problem.
>> Glenn
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>> Glenn McKnight
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