[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Statement on the NETmundial Initiative
Sivasubramanian M
isolatedn at gmail.com
Wed Nov 19 06:58:09 PST 2014
+1 Carlos.
@Raul It is not well understood that this is NOT our final position, and a
bit of negative publicity has resulted and a few other actors have used
this announcement to campaign against NETmundial.
Sivasubramanian M
Sivasubramanian M <https://www.facebook.com/sivasubramanian.muthusamy>
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <crg at isoc-cr.org>
wrote:
> Dear Raúl,
>
> I just see a lot of value judgements in advance about an initiative by one
> of the most bottom up organizations in the world: cgi.br
> Some of its members have already stated they (cgi.br) will guarantee all
> important values we all care for
> Why does not ISOC just join as leading I* member and helps guarantee that
> the best intentions of cgi.br will be protected and improved?
> ISOC asked for our comments, and with all due respect, none of my comments
> is reflected in the Board of trustees statement.
>
> Maybe is good we all put our own both up standards under review.
>
>
> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> Chair ISOC Costa Rica
> http://www.isoc-cr.org
> _____________________
>
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>
>
> > El 19/11/2014, a las 10:38, Raul Echeberria <echeberria at isoc.org>
> escribió:
> >
> >
> > Olivier:
> >
> > ISOC is not closing any door.
> > What the statement says is that there had not been a bottom up open
> discussion so far on this initiative and there are concerns with regard to
> the consistency with our principles in that sense.
> > But through this statement the Board is also asking ISOC’s CEO to
> conduct an open dialogue within our community. This is what should have
> happened before.
> >
> > So, answering your question “Where do we go from here?”, my answer is
> Open Discussion without anticipating any outcome of those discussions.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Raúl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > El 18/11/2014, a las 16:03, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
> escribió:
> >
> >>
> >> On 17/11/2014 04:39, Greg Wood wrote:
> >>> At the conclusion of its meeting in Honolulu, the Internet Society
> Board of Trustees issued the following statement:
> >>>
> >>> We will follow up in the next week with more details on the community
> dialogue.
> >>>
> >>> -Greg
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-statement-netmundial-initiative
> >>
> >> Thanks for this pointer, Greg. I note that there's been much discussion
> >> on the ISOC web group platform as well but for the sake of convenience
> >> will reply here. I am sorry to not have followed this more closely but
> >> am engulfed in the NTIA functions Stewardship Transition discussions
> >> hence which appear to be more of a priority at the moment.
> >>
> >> I am in two minds about the Statement. I do not disapprove it. However I
> >> do have concerns about "where do we go from here?" Like many people in
> >> our multistakeholder space I felt uneasy about this initiative landing
> >> in the WEF in a rather top down manner but could understand *some* of
> >> the rationale behind it, which I felt related to the funding of the
> >> initiative in particular. WEF has deep pockets.
> >>
> >> So where do we go from here and does ISOC's rejection of the initiative
> >> indicate a deeper disagreement between the I* organisations? Has ISOC
> >> clearly closed the door? More importantly where are we (as in all
> >> defenders of the core principles which are listed in the ISOC Board
> >> Statement) going to find the funding for our continued defence of these
> >> principles?
> >>
> >> Kindest regards,
> >>
> >> Olivier
> >> (own views)
> >>
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