[Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters

Thu May 22 02:28:14 PDT 2014

On May 21, 2014 10:21 PM, "Alejandro Pisanty" <apisanty at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> no contest to your proposal of moving engineers around. In ISOC's early
ages one of its key activities was the NTW, Network Training Workshops.
Their time may be past but some things can still be arranged - and are, by
fellowhsips, the online course, etc.
>
In the past put together a team of engineers from different chapters to
train the Georgia CERT Team, this was done through community grants. And
what i meant about the reservoir is the community of engineers that is part
of ISOC. Chapters is volunteer work which means that the ones that have
solid knowledge can still volunteer to train others.
> We do need to be aware that ISOC does not "have" that reservoir - if you
mean members, who ever "has" them is their employers.
>
> To your point about appearing in the press: it is indeed serious when the
press works that way. We in the chapters and ISOC HQ must do a workaround:
appearing in the international press till you get noticed by the local
press. And again as in my previous email: yes, it's nice to have our faces
and words in print, but the important thing, the mission, is to improve
life, access to the Internet, its governance, etc. Silent work sometimes
gets you that influence better, and at manageable risk levels.
>

The concept around community grants is competition which means that the
program only touches issues that are present in successful applicants'
proposals. What we need is an educatiom program that is designed for
chapter development, chapter to chapter.
> For trainings like the ones you are proposing ISOC's tool till now has
been events and community grants. We need to get a better concept and see
if we can gain support for it.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Mulola <chris.mulola at gmail.com>
wrote:
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>> Hi Gihan, Alexandro, Charles and all,
>>
>> Africa is totally particular in its ways, here in Rwanda for a newspaper
to write about an event you have organized, you have to call the owner, pay
him and he will write about you.
>>
>> For RwIGF, which is our national IGF, we have no funding issues as the
government promotes the event, the only issue is that it lacks activities,
it is only active before the East  African one. In KENYA, people like Alice
Munyua will always get you funds for your local IGF. And for the EAIGF,
ISOC African Bureau always takes care of that, they pay  mostly for 2
candidates from each eastafrican country to participate.
>>
>> THE ONLY MISTAKE that we have always been FIGHTING is ISOC giving those
funds to local governments instead of channeling that aid through local
chapters. Now this is  the time for Tanzania and Tanzania does not even
have a chapter, i guess eaigf aid should go through a chapter in a
neighboring country to arrange for people to participate in EAigf  in Dar
Es Salam. This will demonstrate  again how ISOC  global values its chapter
and push Tanzania into also starting a chapter, we should be always
diplomatic. Last time, support  went through ISOC Burundi - the last eaigf
had been announced  to take place in Burundi - and it was great.
>>
>> Now we do  not even know whether eaigf2014 will take place or not,
Tanzanian Team has been silent ts been 2 months now, but thats another
issue.
>>
>> Regarding the $2000 in developing countries, that amount is too little,
in Rwanda that would be 3 months salary  for an average worker. African
chapters should be given more, like we do not have the same advantages as
in richer countries.
>>
>> As for Burkina Faso and it is great to have membership fees, but for us
we decided not to have that as the members will always ask for something in
return that we are not in a position to offer. I once proposed a solution
to ISOC global but it has  been neglected up to now - maybe it does not
make sense.
>>
>> My proposition was:
>> ISOC GLOBAL  has a huge reservoir of IT engineers, it should identify
like 3 members from every chapter in a developing  country, take these
members, offer them trainings and send them back to their respective
countries. Once back, they need to start the same trainings  at cheaper
costs and the money gained will be used for chapter administration and
visibility. Governments will be happy and they will value much local
chapters like nobody dislikes a provider. This will prompt chapters into
having more say on the ICT economy and policies for which they will be much
regarded as major contributors.
>> (Give me  a fish and i will eat for a day but teach me how to fish i
will eat for a lifetime) This is much like give me $2000, and i will ask
for more but give me something to provide to the government and local ICT
hungry population for a win-win and i will not ask for your support anymore.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Chris Mulola
>> President, ISOC Rwanda
>>
>> On May 21, 2014 3:40 PM, "Gihan Dias" <gihan at uom.lk> wrote:
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>>> On 2014/05/21 ප.ව. 4:41, Charles Oloo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gihan, That is a brief of our current situation.
>>>
>>> Charles,
>>>
>>> Thanks. It is very instructive.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Gihan
>>>
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