[Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters
Daniel Otieno Omondi
dottocomp at yahoo.com
Wed May 21 23:37:43 PDT 2014
Chester,
This is a great point to pick from.
Thanks
Daniel Omondi
Vice Chair
ISOC-KE,Nairobi,Kenya
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On Wed, 5/21/14, Chester Soong <chester at soong.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters
To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2014, 6:56 PM
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Hi John,
What
you suggested about interns is good and it is exactly what
ISOC HK
has been doing. We engage
university students from all disciplines to
help organize, run, and even hosting as MC for
our local events. It is a
win-win
situation. We get free labour and they get exposure and
experience.
Chester at ISOC.hk
On 5/22/2014 4:45 AM, JOHN
MORE wrote:
> One work-around for print
media would seem to be using social media
> extensively. I can assure you the DC
Chapter's events get no coverage in
>
the newspapers or radio -- at least not yet.
>
> I have suggested in
the past that ISOC create a corps of trained interns
> to go out for a year or two to assist in
Chapter formation, development
> and
local projects.
>
>
John More
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2014, at
4:21 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com
> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>
>>
Chris,
>>
>> no
contest to your proposal of moving engineers around. In
ISOC's
>> early ages one of its
key activities was the NTW, Network Training
>> Workshops. Their time may be past but
some things can still be
>> arranged -
and are, by fellowhsips, the online course, etc.
>>
>> We do need to
be aware that ISOC does not "have" that reservoir
- if
>> you mean members, who ever
"has" them is their employers.
>>
>> To your point
about appearing in the press: it is indeed serious when
>> the press works that way. We in the
chapters and ISOC HQ must do a
>>
workaround: appearing in the international press till you
get noticed
>> by the local press. And
again as in my previous email: yes, it's nice
>> to have our faces and words in print,
but the important thing, the
>>
mission, is to improve life, access to the Internet, its
governance,
>> etc. Silent work
sometimes gets you that influence better, and at
>> manageable risk levels.
>>
>> For trainings
like the ones you are proposing ISOC's tool till now
has
>> been events and community
grants. We need to get a better concept and
>> see if we can gain support for it.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro
Pisanty
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris
Mulola <chris.mulola at gmail.com
>> <mailto:chris.mulola at gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>
>>
Hi Gihan, Alexandro, Charles and all,
>>
>>
Africa is totally particular in its ways, here
in Rwanda for a
>>
newspaper to write about an event you have
organized, you have to
>>
call the owner, pay him and he will write
about you.
>>
>> For RwIGF, which is
our national IGF, we have no funding issues as
>> the government
promotes the event, the only issue is that it lacks
>> activities, it is only
active before the East African one. In
>> KENYA, people like
Alice Munyua will always get you funds for your
>> local IGF. And for the
EAIGF, ISOC African Bureau always takes
>> care of that, they
pay mostly for 2 candidates from each
>> eastafrican country to
participate.
>>
>> THE ONLY MISTAKE that
we have always been FIGHTING is ISOC giving
>> those funds to local
governments instead of channeling that aid
>> through local
chapters. Now this is the time for Tanzania and
>> Tanzania does not even
have a chapter, i guess eaigf aid should go
>> through a chapter in a
neighboring country to arrange for people
>> to participate in
EAigf in Dar Es Salam. This will demonstrate
>> again how ISOC
global values its chapter and push Tanzania into
>> also starting a
chapter, we should be always diplomatic. Last
>> time, support went
through ISOC Burundi - the last eaigf had been
>> announced to take
place in Burundi - and it was great.
>>
>>
Now we do not even know whether eaigf2014
will take place or not,
>>
Tanzanian Team has been silent ts been 2
months now, but thats
>>
another issue.
>>
>> Regarding the $2000 in
developing countries, that amount is too
>> little, in Rwanda that
would be 3 months salary for an average
>> worker. African
chapters should be given more, like we do not have
>> the same advantages as
in richer countries.
>>
>> As for Burkina Faso
and it is great to have membership fees, but
>> for us we decided not
to have that as the members will always ask
>> for something in
return that we are not in a position to offer. I
>> once proposed a
solution to ISOC global but it has been neglected
>> up to now - maybe it
does not make sense.
>>
>> My proposition was:
>> ISOC GLOBAL has a
huge reservoir of IT engineers, it should
>> identify like 3
members from every chapter in a developing
>> country, take these
members, offer them trainings and send them
>> back to their
respective countries. Once back, they need to start
>> the same trainings
at cheaper costs and the money gained will be
>> used for chapter
administration and visibility. Governments will
>> be happy and they will
value much local chapters like nobody
>> dislikes a provider.
This will prompt chapters into having more
>> say on the ICT economy
and policies for which they will be much
>> regarded as major
contributors.
>> (Give
me a fish and i will eat for a day but teach me how to
fish
>> i will eat for
a lifetime) This is much like give me $2000, and i
>> will ask for more but
give me something to provide to the
>> government and local
ICT hungry population for a win-win and i
>> will not ask for your
support anymore.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
Chris Mulola
>>
President, ISOC Rwanda
>>
>>
On May 21, 2014 3:40 PM, "Gihan
Dias" <gihan at uom.lk
>> <mailto:gihan at uom.lk>>
wrote:
>>
>>
On 2014/05/21 ප.ව. 4:41, Charles
Oloo wrote:
>>>
Gihan, That is a brief of our current
situation.
>>
Charles,
>>
>> Thanks. It is
very instructive.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
Gihan
>>
>>
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