[Chapter-delegates] Issues facing Chapters

Chester Soong chester at soong.net
Wed May 21 18:56:20 PDT 2014 

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Hi John,

What you suggested about interns is good and it is exactly what ISOC HK 
has been doing. We engage university students from all disciplines to 
help organize, run, and even hosting as MC for our local events. It is a 
win-win situation. We get free labour and they get exposure and experience.

Chester at ISOC.hk

On 5/22/2014 4:45 AM, JOHN MORE wrote:
> One work-around for print media would seem to be using social media
> extensively. I can assure you the DC Chapter's events get no coverage in
> the newspapers or radio -- at least not yet.
>
> I have suggested in the past that ISOC create a corps of trained interns
> to go out for a year or two to assist in Chapter formation, development
> and local projects.
>
> John More
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 21, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com
> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> no contest to your proposal of moving engineers around. In ISOC's
>> early ages one of its key activities was the NTW, Network Training
>> Workshops. Their time may be past but some things can still be
>> arranged - and are, by fellowhsips, the online course, etc.
>>
>> We do need to be aware that ISOC does not "have" that reservoir - if
>> you mean members, who ever "has" them is their employers.
>>
>> To your point about appearing in the press: it is indeed serious when
>> the press works that way. We in the chapters and ISOC HQ must do a
>> workaround: appearing in the international press till you get noticed
>> by the local press. And again as in my previous email: yes, it's nice
>> to have our faces and words in print, but the important thing, the
>> mission, is to improve life, access to the Internet, its governance,
>> etc. Silent work sometimes gets you that influence better, and at
>> manageable risk levels.
>>
>> For trainings like the ones you are proposing ISOC's tool till now has
>> been events and community grants. We need to get a better concept and
>> see if we can gain support for it.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Chris Mulola <chris.mulola at gmail.com
>> <mailto:chris.mulola at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Gihan, Alexandro, Charles and all,
>>
>>     Africa is totally particular in its ways, here in Rwanda for a
>>     newspaper to write about an event you have organized, you have to
>>     call the owner, pay him and he will write about you.
>>
>>     For RwIGF, which is our national IGF, we have no funding issues as
>>     the government promotes the event, the only issue is that it lacks
>>     activities, it is only active before the East  African one. In
>>     KENYA, people like Alice Munyua will always get you funds for your
>>     local IGF. And for the EAIGF, ISOC African Bureau always takes
>>     care of that, they pay  mostly for 2 candidates from each
>>     eastafrican country to participate.
>>
>>     THE ONLY MISTAKE that we have always been FIGHTING is ISOC giving
>>     those  funds to local governments instead of channeling that aid
>>     through local chapters. Now this is  the time for Tanzania and
>>     Tanzania does not even have a chapter, i guess eaigf aid should go
>>     through a chapter in a neighboring country to arrange for people
>>     to participate in EAigf  in Dar Es Salam. This will demonstrate
>>     again how ISOC  global values its chapter and push Tanzania into
>>     also starting a chapter, we should be always diplomatic. Last
>>     time, support  went through ISOC Burundi - the last eaigf had been
>>     announced  to take place in Burundi - and it was great.
>>
>>     Now we do  not even know whether eaigf2014 will take place or not,
>>     Tanzanian Team has been silent ts been 2 months now, but thats
>>     another issue.
>>
>>     Regarding the $2000 in developing countries, that amount is too
>>     little, in Rwanda that would be 3 months salary  for an average
>>     worker. African chapters should be given more, like we do not have
>>     the same advantages as in richer countries.
>>
>>     As for Burkina Faso and it is great to have membership fees, but
>>     for us we decided not to have that as the members will always ask
>>     for something in return that we are not in a position to offer. I
>>     once proposed a solution to ISOC global but it has  been neglected
>>     up to now - maybe it does not make sense.
>>
>>     My proposition was:
>>     ISOC GLOBAL  has a huge reservoir of IT engineers, it should
>>     identify like 3 members from every chapter in a developing
>>     country, take these members, offer them trainings and send them
>>     back to their respective countries. Once back, they need to start
>>     the same trainings  at cheaper costs and the money gained will be
>>     used for chapter administration and visibility. Governments will
>>     be happy and they will value much local chapters like nobody
>>     dislikes a provider. This will prompt chapters into having more
>>     say on the ICT economy and policies for which they will be much
>>     regarded as major contributors.
>>     (Give me  a fish and i will eat for a day but teach me how to fish
>>     i will eat for a lifetime) This is much like give me $2000, and i
>>     will ask for more but give me something to provide to the
>>     government and local ICT hungry population for a win-win and i
>>     will not ask for your support anymore.
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Chris Mulola
>>     President, ISOC Rwanda
>>
>>     On May 21, 2014 3:40 PM, "Gihan Dias" <gihan at uom.lk
>>     <mailto:gihan at uom.lk>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 2014/05/21 ප.ව. 4:41, Charles Oloo wrote:
>>>         Gihan, That is a brief of our current situation.
>>         Charles,
>>
>>         Thanks. It is very instructive.
>>
>>         Regards,
>>
>>         Gihan
>>
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