[Chapter-delegates] ICANN Accountability was Re: Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group

[Victor Ndonnang]

Thank you Narelle, your message is not annoying at all. It is very well in line with your role as a coordinator. 

There is a confusion since day1 of NTIA announcement between USGov/NTIA Stewardship transition and IANA Transition. 
NTIA asked ICANN to convene the Global Muktistakegolder community to discuss mechanisms of that intent stewardship transition  and it is clear that ICANN and Verisign roles are not in question. 
But USGOV/NTIA giving away it's stewardship role has a serious impact on ICANN accountability as the operator of IANA functions; that's why I agree with those who think IANA stewardship transition and ICANN accountability have to be addressed simultaneously in a collaborative way. 
I also agree with the need of having two groups to deal with those issues, but it is important for the two groups to listen and talk to each other. 
Best regards, 
Victor 
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> On Jul 9, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Narelle Clark <narelle at isoc-au.org.au> wrote:
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> Hi all
> at the risk of annoying people by being pedantic, can I ask that this thread be split into ICANN accountability (or other) topics, and the issues for the NTIA/IANA Stewardiship Transition be kept on this or other suitably named subject line?
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> Clearly one MAJOR issue for the co-ordinating group is to keep the issues sets cleanly delineated - or to respond appropriately to the community if it feels the issues can't be separated.
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> To my mind - at this stage - ICANN's accountability issues lie within ICANN's policy remit and shouldn't affect the strict operational questions of IANA.
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> If you want to keep them together, let me know, but at this stage it would seem important to delineate and separate these particular issues for the sake of the database.
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> btw - a huge thanks to those well wishers. I am actually more impressed by the honour you grant by your collective intelligence and wisdom.
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> Narelle
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>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
>> Given that the interests of registrants and end users are not in sync -- a number of examples have been provided above -- I welcome mention of any policy initiatives or positions in which any ICANN GNSO stakeholder group has visibly sided with the interests of non-registrant end users over those of registrants.
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>> One will do.
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>> It's easy to say that the constituencies are designed to serve users, but that's only when the interests of end-users and registrants are conveniently aligned.
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>> In areas where they are not ... such as pressing ICANN compliance to enforce its rules, shut down the domains of bad actors, demand accurate WHOIS information, insist on Public Interest Commitments that aren't crap, admit that protecting Red Cross strings as trademarks isn't such a bad idea, demand end-user-centric metrics, or even dare once suggest that the gTLD expansion, in its then-current form, was "unacceptable" to the public interest ... At-Large has stood alone, with little support of other constituencies that claim to represent users. This can be verified.
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>> It is in these areas -- those in which we must ascertain and advocate the needs of the billions who have not ever bought a domain name and never will -- the support of ISOC will be most helpful going forward,
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>> The GNSO constituencies may charter themselves as they like, but ICANN Bylaw XI.2.4.a is about as explicit as it gets:
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>> The At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) is the primary organizational home within ICANN for individual Internet users.
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