[Chapter-delegates] ICANN Accountability was Re: Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group

[Carlos Raul Gutierrez]

Thank you Olivier
I has a similar readin but thought it was my lack of understanding
Worry about how long we should wait? And if we don't see anything?

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El 10/07/2014, a las 01:48, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com> escribió:

> Dear Narelle,
> 
> On 10/07/2014 04:29, Narelle Clark wrote:
>> at the risk of annoying people by being pedantic, can I ask that this
>> thread be split into ICANN accountability (or other) topics, and the
>> issues for the NTIA/IANA Stewardiship Transition be kept on this or
>> other suitably named subject line?
>> 
>> Clearly one MAJOR issue for the co-ordinating group is to keep the
>> issues sets cleanly delineated - or to respond appropriately to the
>> community if it feels the issues can't be separated.
> 
> ICANN has been giving mixed signals about this and I must admit this has
> confused a lot of people, so the extent I asked Theresa Swinehart this
> questions during a Webinar.
> Her response has been that the two topics will be treated in different
> working groups but are closely linked. They run in parallel with a high
> level of coordination between the two.
> 
> I believe it is still too early to see how this is all going to work
> out. My personal point of view is that many of us have been stunned by
> the number of topics and meetings at ICANN 50 and are only just coming
> back to our senses, only to find out the discussion's going in all sorts
> of directions in a somehow random, chaotic way.
> 
> For example, I find it strange that we are discussing these issues on
> the Chapter Delegates list when there is an "ICANN Issues" lnternet
> Society Mailing list.
> I find it surprising that some speak of "IANA Transition" or "IANA
> Functions Transition" as if the IANA functions would be transited
> *outside* of ICANN. I am surprised to see that some see the
> "Coordinating Group" as being a place where the negotiations will take
> place; others see it as a coordinating group where each community will
> report their own work; others see it as THE decisional body for the
> future of those functions; some see it as a technical discussion group
> and others like a pure policy group; some see this an an opportunity to
> reboot the complete system of "who does what on the Internet"; some are
> arguing that only the discussions relating to Domain Names should take
> place on the ICANN platform and the other discussions should take place
> in their respective operational bodies..... whilst at the same time
> ICANN mentions in its FAQ it will retain the running of the functions
> BUT says it is just one of the participants in the Coordination Group.
> 
> To top the whole confusion, there was a mailing list run by ICANN on the
> matter and now discussions are taking place on the newly established
> ICANN Web Site and you need a Log-in on it.... and the darn thing is not
> particularly easy to use, so some groups are considering making a formal
> complaint already, preferring a mailing list to a Web discussion.
> 
> Oh and then there is going to be an ICANN accountability thread that's
> both closely linked to the IANA thread (ICANN Staff words) but actually
> independent... and that thread is actually under the same budget Item in
> ICANN's budget.... but we don't know whether it will be accompanied by
> the same ICANN Staff or the ATRT2 ICANN Staff...
> 
> Wow -- how more complicated can it get?
> 
> So my personal point of view has been to wait & see - and the
> coordination group will no doubt need to address these issues in its
> first meeting in London.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Olivier
> (own views)
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