[Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group

[Victor Ndonnang]

+1 Evan,

Thank you for your inputs and clarifications on this “never-ending” WHOIS vs privacy discussion. There are so many reasons individuals/registrants want to keep their WHOIS information private…I want to be contacted when there is a problem with my domain name but not by the general public or everyone on the Internet. I’m not an expert on this issue but the gTLD WHOIS or WHOIS in general is a serious privacy issue for many registrants around the world and many of them are paying a lot of money to keep their personal information private. What about those who cannot or doesn’t want to pay an extra fee to do so? 

 

I have not yet had the chance to go through the entire final report of the WHOIS Expert Working Group, but I hope the proposed solution to replace today’s WHOIS will be accepted, improved and definitely protect the privacy of registrants personal information at no extra cost…If not we should start thinking how to simply turn it off!

 

Thank you all for your contributions and clarifications. 

 

Best regards,

Victor Ndonnang. 

 

De : Chapter-delegates [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] De la part de Evan Leibovitch
Envoyé : Monday, July 7, 2014 11:41 AM
À : Christian de Larrinaga
Cc : Chapter Delegates
Objet : Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Society Appointments to theNTIA/IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group

 

On 7 July 2014 09:45, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:

This is a curious argument. I've seen it on AT Large lists as if it actually means something useful.

 

 

No need to insult points of view with which you disagree.

 

 

As a registrant I have exactly the same interest in keeping my whois registration record in working order because I want to know if there is a problem and have a public point of contact for people to reach me.

 

 

And a great many other registrants, myself included, share that view. However the sentiment is not universal, which is where the differences arise.

 

There is, for instance, a significant component of the Non-Commercial Users Constituency within ICANN's GNSO that believes that a registrant has the right to keep their contact data private and hidden from you. They do not share your interest in having accessible, working contact information.

 

 

As a user I want to be able to reach the domain administrator so I can report problems and cross reference registration data.

 

On that we absolutely agree.

 

But what if that other domain administrators do not want to be reached? What if they don't care about the kind of problems you would report? What if they are deliberately trying to avoid you?

 

The fact remains that there is a significant component of the world of registrants that cares more about their privacy than your ability to contact them. There are other registrants who want to typo-squat or use fraudulent domain names so they can pretend they're the Red Cross and solicit funds from you. It is highly unlikely that these I suggest that the interests of those registrants absolutely do not coincide with yours as a user.

 

It also does not appear that you are domainer, who buys and sells domains primarily as commodity for a significant source of income, The subset of registrants who share that characteristic have different interests in ICANN than you or I, for reasons that have nothing to do with accurate contact information,

 

In ICANN At-Large we have identified quite a few issues -- some of them significant -- where the interests of end users and registrants are not aligned. These differences are indeed relevant to some, and indicate that registrants cannot be thought to be surrogates for end users in matters related to ICANN accountability.

 

- Evan

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