[Chapter-delegates] Proposed charter of the Chapter Advisory Council

Nadira Alaraj nadira.araj at gmail.com
Fri Dec 12 14:19:44 PST 2014


Hi Janiver,
I tend to agree with your argument when the responsibilities of the
officers need higher decision making tasks than what are described in
points 4.2 to 4.5.
But for CAC officers, I still see 5 years is longer period, and we have to
keep in mind that the officers might not be appointed at the same time and
some might leave after their first year.

Giving chance to more officers take these roles is a healthy practice for
the empowerment of the Chapter members.
Best,
Nadira
ISOC Palestine board member



On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Janvier Noulaye <jnoulaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Nadira,
> Just a quick comment on your proposal.
> If we want to perform  efficiency, good result, stability, five
> consecutive one-year terms are suffisant and good. Another avantage
> here is that after two consecutive one-year terms for instance with
> bad result, he/she can be removed from position.
> For me 3 consecutive years  terms is short and maybe if we add
> "renewable once", it becomes too long.
>
> Warm regards,
> /Janvier Ngnoulaye,PhD
> ISOC Cameroon
>
> 2014-12-12 15:12 GMT+01:00 Nadira Alaraj <nadira.araj at gmail.com>:
> > Dear Evan & John,
> > Thank you for the effort in preparing the proposed charter of the Chapter
> > Advisory Council.
> > I went through the document and the chat recording and I have one comment
> > regarding point 4.1
> >
> > " The officers will be elected by the Steering Committee from amongst its
> > members for a one-year term, once the Steering Committee is selected at
> the
> > CAC Annual Meeting. An officer may serve up to five consecutive one-year
> > terms."
> >
> >
> > A maximum of 5 consecutive years for an officer that might serve would be
> > too long.  It is better to give a chance and experience for more emerging
> > leadership.  Therefor, I think it is better to reduce the duration up to
> 3
> > consecutive years.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Nadira Alaraj
> > Board member,
> > ISOC Palestine Chapter
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Janvier Noulaye <jnoulaye at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Alejandro,  Evan & All,
> >> My take is that we must keep using all these multiple channel of
> >> communication (Chat, mailing list, etc), but keeping in mind that if
> >> the topic must interest the community, we also bring it to the
> >> appropriate mailing list.
> >> I think it's what I see till now.
> >>
> >> Warm regards,
> >> /Janvier
> >>
> >> 2014-12-11 21:50 GMT+01:00 Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>:
> >> > On 10 December 2014 at 18:36, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> indeed there is a discussion on the Skype chat put together by Evan
> and
> >> >> which involves some of us ISOC chapter leaders and other members.
> >> >>
> >> >> Since that is a close, non-transparent, non-publicly-recorded,
> >> >> non-standards-compliant discussion I have asked the CAC-proposal team
> >> >> members, Evan and John, to move it to this shared space and to the
> >> >> standards-compliant email discussion list.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi Alejandro,
> >> >
> >> > In the interests of reaching as many people as possible, John and I
> have
> >> > promoted, discussed, and taken feedback on the Charter through
> multiple
> >> > channels:
> >> >
> >> > - The Chapter-delegates mailing list
> >> > - The Connect online portal (which has an email gateway)
> >> > - Four regional real-time teleconferences
> >> > - In the Skype chat
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Of the four, the Skype chat is a real-time casual discussion, not
> >> > sanctioned
> >> > by ISOC, that does not have the consent of all its members to be made
> >> > public. Indeed, it is possible that there is an atmosphere in the chat
> >> > that
> >> > is based on an assumption of non-circulation. Reproducing a
> conversation
> >> > from a non-public forum to a public one without consent might be an
> >> > invasion
> >> > of privacy laws in some jurisdictions, and is at very least bad
> manners.
> >> >
> >> > In each channel, John and I have responded in the same forum in which
> >> > the
> >> > original question was asked. We answered questions in the Skype chat,
> >> > but no
> >> > changes to the Charter were made based on conversations there.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone wishing has my permission to reproduce my Skype comments
> related
> >> > to
> >> > the CAC but not necessarily about other matters. And if anyone has a
> >> > concern
> >> > about the openness of the Skype chat there are multiple more-open
> venues
> >> > to
> >> > use. John and I have been participating in all of them.
> >> >
> >> > - Evan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Nadira Alaraj
> >
> >
>


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*Nadira Alaraj*
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