[Chapter-delegates] Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter

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As I see we have a mix of issues from operational ones to sovereignty in different discussions in the list.

Very complicated situation

Carlos Vera

Internet Society Ecuador
www.isoc.org.ec
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> El 22/10/2013, a las 3:39, Dick Kalkman <d.h.kalkman at isoc.nl> escribió:
> 
> 
> Dear Borka, Klaus and Veni,
> 
> In The Netherlands we have much the same problems with the AMS system.
> An estimated near thousand member records are lost and/or corrupted.
> Maybe more, because who knows what happened before we recognized the
> problems? There are simply no activity logs on membership database
> mutations or just basic backups available to us.
> 
> We also have the same problem that all our roll back / recovery requests
> to ISOC HQ only gave lots of tech talk but until now zero solutions.
> Even our positive response to the proposal from ISOC HQ to switch of the
> (for us useless) renewal function didn't result in any action.
> The only (sad) advantage is that the number of complains from our
> members on spamming by ISOC HQ are declining.
> 
> The second main problem is that there is still no compliance (read
> compliance certification) to local law(-s). I'm very concerned with this
> situation.
> 
> I hope that the new task force established to solve this, soon result in
> some improvements and we all can go back to our core activities.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Dick Kalkman
> 
> 
> 
>> On 21-10-2013 7:06, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:
>> Veni and Klaus,
>> 
>> I fully agree with all you have said.
>> Instead on mission the HQ is planning how to
>> "discipline" the chapters. I fully agree also
>> what Klaus wrote regarding the funding and the AMS (clumsy, not effective,
>> duplication of the administration etc.) A month ago cca 40  members of
>> ISOC SI were deleted from AMS, because
>> their renewal was not done on time!! When I asked the data  to be
>> recovered - the answer was that the data have been lost or somewhere
>