[Chapter-delegates] Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter

[John More]

I concur.  

One of the motivations for revising the Bylaws to have a Chapter Advisory Council was to have a vehicle for peer input on the Chapter agreement (I think then termed a MOU), such as can be found with other organizations that have Chapters and set minimum standards.

It would be best to wait for the creation of the Council before implementing the Renewal letter. One of the first tasks of the Council would be to vet the letter and then implement it.

John More
Greater Washington Dc Chapter


On Oct 19, 2013, at 3:01 PM, CW Mail <mail at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:

> +1	CW
> 
> 
> On 19 Oct 2013, at 18:36, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:
> 
>> I agree. It would be wise for ISOC to now recognise that the formation process of the Chapter Advisory Council should be allowed to happen without the shadow of this letter hanging over the community and withdraw it whilst it gets established.
>> 
>> In the interim chapters can think about the future role of individuals in their chapter. Whether they sign up at ISOC as supporters or directly at the chapter. ISOC established its new ByLaws without listening to the warnings that the status and role of individuals at ISOC was being completely removed. 
>> 
>> Sending us all a letter that half imposes some retrospective  one sided obligations on chapters after the event doesn't solve anything. To be brutal it doesn't read as being honest about what ISOC wants to achieve with its chapters.  If ISOC wants chapters to be vehicles for individual engagement in the cleaned up mission focussed new ISOC then let's see a proposal to work together on that idea. 
>> 
>> best
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>> 
>> 
>> Christian 
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>> 
>>> 	CW Mail	17 October 2013 19:18
>>> Dear Christian:
>>> 
>>> You make some very strong points, below. Thankyou.
>>> 
>>> The main lines of these concerns have been evident now for several years, and I am surprised that ISOC has resurrected the quasi-contract formula, after many of us had patiently explained that it would not work in appliccable law.
>>> It would be wise to defer any further discussion on those matters until the Chapters Advisory Council is in place.
>>> Meanwhile, think: hit, ball, long, grass … 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> CW
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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