<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I concur. <div><br></div><div>One of the motivations for revising the Bylaws to have a Chapter Advisory Council was to have a vehicle for peer input on the Chapter agreement (I think then termed a MOU), such as can be found with other organizations that have Chapters and set minimum standards.<div><br></div><div>It would be best to wait for the creation of the Council before implementing the Renewal letter. One of the first tasks of the Council would be to vet the letter and then implement it.</div><div><br></div><div>John More</div><div>Greater Washington Dc Chapter</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Oct 19, 2013, at 3:01 PM, CW Mail <<a href="mailto:mail@christopherwilkinson.eu">mail@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">+1<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>CW<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 19 Oct 2013, at 18:36, Christian de Larrinaga <<a href="mailto:cdel@firsthand.net">cdel@firsthand.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div style="font-family: Avenir Next;" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div style="font-family: Avenir Next;"><span style="font-family: Avenir Next;">I agree. It would be wise for ISOC to
now recognise that the formation process of the Chapter Advisory Council
should be allowed to happen without the shadow of this letter hanging
over the community and withdraw it whilst it gets established.<br><br>In
the interim chapters can think about the future role of individuals in
their chapter. Whether they sign up at ISOC as supporters or directly at
the chapter. ISOC established its new ByLaws without listening to the
warnings that the status and role of individuals at ISOC was being
completely removed. <br><br>Sending us all a letter that half imposes
some retrospective one sided obligations on chapters after the event
doesn't solve anything. To be brutal it doesn't read as being honest
about what ISOC wants to achieve with its chapters. If ISOC wants
chapters to be vehicles for individual engagement in the cleaned up
mission focussed new ISOC then let's see a proposal to work together on
that idea. <br><br>best<br><br><br><br>Christian <br><br><br></span><br><blockquote style="border: 0px none;" cite="mid:0D46CF7D-A538-4727-B5E2-7D7DA89BFFE6@christopherwilkinson.eu" type="cite"><div style="margin:30px 25px 10px 25px;" class="__pbConvHr"><div style="display:table;width:100%;border-top:1px solid
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19:18</span></font></div></div></div><div style="color:#888888;margin-left:24px;margin-right:24px;" __pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div>Dear Christian:<br><br>You
make some very strong points, below. Thankyou.<br><br>The main lines of
these concerns have been evident now for several years, and I am
surprised that ISOC has resurrected the quasi-contract formula, after
many of us had patiently explained that it would not work in appliccable
law.<br>It would be wise to defer any further discussion on those
matters until the Chapters Advisory Council is in place.<br>Meanwhile,
think: hit, ball, long, grass … <br><br>Regards<br><br>CW<br><br><br><br></div><div><!----><br>_______________________________________________<br>As
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