[Chapter-delegates] A conversation on Core Internet Values
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On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> in complement to Siva's message about Core Internet Values I'd like to
> invite you to the substantive part of the Coalitions's work, in which we
> are making an assessment (which will become annual) of progress,
> challenges, and even regressions with respect to the core principles of the
> Internet. For this year we have chosen a subset and sent out a poll which
> has given us some very interesting answers.
>
> I include one here in order to invite all Chapter Delegates to
> contribute by commenting on it and adding your own assessments. They will
> become part of the Coalition's report.
>
> Before you start remember that the Coalition's philosophy, as explained
> by Siva, can be summarized informally as follows: there are many attempts
> to put together sets of principles for Internet Governance. Some are liable
> to actually interfere with what the Internet is and is not. If you want the
> Internet to serve X or Y agenda, we must first make sure there continues to
> be an Internet (open, interoperable, etc.)
>
> So here goes, for your comments:
>
> "I don't usually think in terms of wins and losses, but I'll just
> interpret it as what is improving (won) and what is getting worse (lost).
> I hope you don't mind if I add "Tie" to the list. :-)
>
> Chip Sharp
>
> > The questions/test statments and first responses/provcations are here
> now.
> > What do you people think has changed for the better and what is frankly
> going down the drain?
> >
> > The purpose of this work is to assess whether the prevalence and
> compliance of Internet Core Values over the Internet has expanded or been
> reduced during the last year, i.e. roughly between the session of the IGF
> in Baku, Azerbaijan, in 2012, and the upcoming one in Bali, Indonesia, in
> October 2013.
> > For simplicity the values for which advances are evaluated are
> Interoperability, Openness, and the End-to-End Principle. Broad definitions
> for these values are used to make the study robust in the face of diversity
> of these definitions.
> >
> > Interoperability – has the Internet become more interoperable or less?
> Are proprietary standards, devices, and operations growing faster than
> systems and services which comply with accepted open standards?
> >
> > Lost
>
> Continued development of competing, non-interoperable protocols by ITU-T
> in general (compared to IEEE, IETF).
> - Example: Approval of two non-interoperable protocols for MPLS-TP OAM
> by ITU-T SG15.
>
> > Won
>
> Increased deployment of interoperable IPv6 devices and apps.
> Internet continues to grow.
> DNSSEC continues to be deployed.
> RPKI starts being deployed.
>
> Tie
> Core Internet Protocols continue to interoperate.
>
>
> > Openness – is the Internet more or less open than a year ago in the
> development of standards, and in the ability to connect any device or
> network? Are there more or less gateways, of larger or smaller effect?
>
> > Lost
>
> Beginning of deployment of Carrier Grade NAT.
>
> > Won
>
> Ambassador programs (e.g., IETF) and government roundtables (e.g., RIPE)
> introducing more people to the Internet model for decision-making and
> discussion.
>
> Much of WCIT was webcast with transcripting. In addition, many different
> stakeholders attended either as delegates or Observers.
> This kind of openness is highly unusual for a multilateral treaty
> negotiation (remember ACTA?).
>
> The prep process for WTPF (Informal Experts Group) was open to all
> stakeholders.
>
> The NSA Surveillance programs came to light, stimulating debate that can
> lead to improved privacy, improved connectivity, etc.
> (Note: I'm counting the surveillance programs as things that have been
> hidden for years, so current situation is an improvement)
>
> More countries and regions are beginning to build Internet communities,
> governments starting to open up consultations, Developing countries are
> starting to interconnect with each other instead of going through a
> developed country.
>
> Tie
> Standards Development related to the Internet.
>
> Unclear
> Mobile and Fixed Broadband providers experimenting with different business
> models, tiered pricing, etc.:
> * In conjunction with the mobile provider, Apple blocks FaceTime
> on the provider's 3G network except for certain rate plans.
> * Providers offering services that don't count against the data
> cap.
>
>
> > End-to-end – do communications over the Internet reach any destination
> from any origin point in the form desired by the sender, with the network
> core dedicating efforts only to fast, efficient and transparent delivery?
> >
> > Lost
>
> Some countries have shut down or limited (or continued to limit)
> international Internet connectivity over internal unrest.
> Carrier Grade NAT starts being deployed.
> There are still a number of problems in utilizing IPv6 end-to-end.
>
>
> >
> > Won
>
> WCIT concluded with no onerous provisions related to the Internet in the
> main text of the treaty. Most such proposals were not included in the
> final treaty.
>
> More capacity being added to underserved regions (e.g., Africa, Latin
> America)."
>
> Happy reading - and answering!!
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
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> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [
> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Charles Oloo [
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> *Enviado el:* viernes, 18 de octubre de 2013 04:32
> *Hasta:* Sivasubramanian M
> *CC:* Chapter Delegates
>
> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] A conversation on Core Internet Values
>
> Thank you SM
>
> I have registered via the form..
> Charles
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>>
>> This
>> is
>> as an invitation to all Chapter Leaders to join the IGF Dynamic Coalition
>> on Core Internet Values. IGF Dynamic Coalitions work during and between
>> IGFs, so this invitation is open to both the regular participants of the IGFa
>> s well as
>> to all those who are committed to Free and Open Internet, but do not
>> attend the IGF.
>>
>> This Dynamic Coalition began its work as a Workshop organized during the
>> IGF Sharm el Sheikh chaired by the Internet Society President Lynn
>> St.Amour.
>>
>> http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1324
>>
>> Recognizing the importance of the theme of preserving Core Internet
>> Values, it was decided to organize a Dynamic Coalition to continue the work
>> during and between the IGFs. The first meeting was held at IGF Vilnius,
>> Lithuania:
>>
>> http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1334
>>
>> The second IGF Meeting of the Dynamic Colation on Core Internet Values
>> was held during the Sixth Annual Meeting of the Internet Governance Forum
>> (27 -30 September 2011) at the United Nations Office in Naiorbi, Nairobi,
>> Kenya:
>>
>> http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1630
>>
>> The third meeting of the Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values was
>> held at the IGF Baku, Azerbaijan, on Nov 8, 2012:
>>
>> http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1650
>>
>> One of the possible ways by which the activity could proceed further is
>> by a "Conversation on Core Internet Values" as an ongoing informal
>> discussion between stakeholders. Under this theme, or by any other name, we
>> could discuss the most recent developments in Internet Governance and where
>> inputs are required to policy makers, we will try to reach out to them
>> through the IGF and through other possible ways.
>>
>> Chapter Leaders come from different stakeholder groups as individuals, so
>> invited to participate
>> in this Dynamic Coalition and in this conversation
>> as individuals, rather than representing the views of the Chapter.
>>
>>
>> To join, please fill this short form:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iCiNcHnfvuDDQAxgoZysXzPXvRva0xA7XffqHUduoUA/viewform
>>
>>
>> Please feel free to forward excepts from this message to your friends
>> and colleagues in other circles known for their commitment to Internet.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>> http://coreinternetvalues.org
>>
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