[Chapter-delegates] A conversation on Core Internet Values

Fri Oct 18 06:12:29 PDT 2013

Hi all,

in complement to Siva's message about Core Internet Values I'd like to invite you to the substantive part of the Coalitions's work, in which we are making an assessment (which will become annual) of progress, challenges, and even regressions with respect to the core principles of the Internet. For this year we have chosen a subset and sent out a poll which has given us some very interesting answers.

I include one here in order to invite all Chapter Delegates to contribute by commenting on it and adding your own assessments. They will become part of the Coalition's report.

Before you start remember that the Coalition's philosophy, as explained by Siva, can be summarized informally as follows: there are many attempts to put together sets of principles for Internet Governance. Some are liable to actually interfere with what the Internet is and is not. If you want the Internet to serve X or Y agenda, we must first make sure there continues to be an Internet (open, interoperable, etc.)

So here goes, for your comments:

"I don't usually think in terms of wins and losses, but I'll just interpret it as what is improving (won) and what is getting worse (lost).
I hope you don't mind if I add "Tie" to the list. :-)

Chip Sharp

> The questions/test statments and first responses/provcations are here now.
> What do you people think has changed for the better and what is frankly going down the drain?
>
> The purpose of this work is to assess whether the prevalence and compliance of Internet Core Values over the Internet has expanded or been reduced during the last year, i.e. roughly between the session of the IGF in Baku, Azerbaijan, in 2012, and the upcoming one in Bali, Indonesia, in October 2013.
> For simplicity the values for which advances are evaluated are Interoperability, Openness, and the End-to-End Principle. Broad definitions for these values are used to make the study robust in the face of diversity of these definitions.
>
> Interoperability – has the Internet become more interoperable or less? Are proprietary standards, devices, and operations growing faster than systems and services which comply with accepted open standards?
>
>                 Lost

Continued development of competing, non-interoperable protocols by ITU-T in general (compared to IEEE, IETF).
  - Example: Approval of two non-interoperable protocols for MPLS-TP OAM by ITU-T SG15.

>                 Won

Increased deployment of interoperable IPv6 devices and apps.
Internet continues to grow.
DNSSEC continues to be deployed.
RPKI starts being deployed.

                Tie
Core Internet Protocols continue to interoperate.

> Openness – is the Internet more or less open than a year ago in the development of standards,  and in the ability to connect any device or network? Are there more or less gateways, of larger or smaller effect?

>                 Lost

Beginning of deployment of Carrier Grade NAT.

>                 Won

Ambassador programs (e.g., IETF) and government roundtables (e.g., RIPE) introducing more people to the Internet model for decision-making and discussion.

Much of WCIT was webcast with transcripting.  In addition, many different stakeholders attended either as delegates or Observers.
This kind of openness is highly unusual for a multilateral treaty negotiation (remember ACTA?).

The prep process for WTPF (Informal Experts Group) was open to all stakeholders.

The NSA Surveillance programs came to light, stimulating debate that can lead to improved privacy, improved connectivity, etc.
(Note:  I'm counting the surveillance programs as things that have been hidden for years, so current situation is an improvement)

More countries and regions are beginning to build Internet communities, governments starting to open up consultations, Developing countries are starting to interconnect with each other instead of going through a developed country.

                 Tie
Standards Development related to the Internet.

                Unclear
Mobile and Fixed Broadband providers experimenting with different business models, tiered pricing, etc.:
        *  In conjunction with the mobile provider, Apple blocks FaceTime on the provider's 3G network except for certain rate plans.
        *  Providers offering services that don't count against the data cap.

> End-to-end – do communications over the Internet reach any destination from any origin point in the form desired by the sender, with the network core dedicating efforts only to fast, efficient and transparent delivery?
>
>                 Lost

Some countries have shut down or limited (or continued to limit) international Internet connectivity over internal unrest.
Carrier Grade NAT starts being deployed.
There are still a number of problems in utilizing IPv6 end-to-end.

>
>                 Won

WCIT concluded with no onerous provisions related to the Internet in the main text of the treaty.  Most such proposals were not included in the final treaty.

More capacity being added to underserved regions (e.g., Africa, Latin America)."

Happy reading - and answering!!

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Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Charles Oloo [oloo6382 at gmail.com]
Enviado el: viernes, 18 de octubre de 2013 04:32
Hasta: Sivasubramanian M
CC: Chapter Delegates
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] A conversation on Core Internet Values

Thank you SM

I have registered via the form..
Charles

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com<mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello

This
is
as an invitation to all Chapter Leaders to join the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values. IGF Dynamic Coalitions work during and between IGFs, so this invitation is open to both the regular participants of the IGF a
s well as
to all those who are committed to Free and Open Internet, but do not attend the IGF.

This Dynamic Coalition began its work as a Workshop organized during the IGF Sharm el Sheikh chaired by the Internet Society President Lynn St.Amour.

http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1324

Recognizing the importance of the theme of preserving Core Internet Values, it was decided to organize a Dynamic Coalition to continue the work during and between the IGFs. The first meeting was held at IGF Vilnius, Lithuania:

http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1334

The second IGF Meeting of the Dynamic Colation on Core Internet Values was held during the Sixth Annual Meeting of the Internet Governance Forum (27 -30 September 2011) at the United Nations Office in Naiorbi, Nairobi, Kenya:

http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1630

The third meeting of the Dynamic Coalition on Core Internet Values was held at the IGF Baku, Azerbaijan, on Nov 8, 2012:

http://coreinternetvalues.org/?p=1650

One of the possible ways by which the activity could proceed further is by a "Conversation on Core Internet Values" as an ongoing informal discussion between stakeholders. Under this theme, or by any other name, we could discuss the most recent developments in Internet Governance and where inputs are required to policy makers, we will try to reach out to them through the IGF and through other possible ways.

Chapter Leaders come from different stakeholder groups as individuals, so invited to participate
in this Dynamic Coalition and in this conversation
as individuals, rather than representing the views of the Chapter.

To join, please fill this short form:

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1iCiNcHnfvuDDQAxgoZysXzPXvRva0xA7XffqHUduoUA/viewform

Please feel free to forward excepts from this message to your friends and colleagues in other circles known for their commitment to Internet.

Thank you
Sivasubramanian M

http://coreinternetvalues.org

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