[Chapter-delegates] Nicaragua's internet is in trouble

Michael Kende kende at isoc.org
Tue Nov 12 05:09:24 PST 2013


Hello, to further this discussion and our understanding of the issues, does anyone have examples of other countries that are considering data localisation requirements such as this and the one that Brazil is discussing?  Are there any specifics available to help analyse what is being proposed?  Do you think they are likely to succeed? And last but not least, what are your views on the policy considerations and potential impact of the measures?
Thanks in advance,
Michael

From: Gary Wayne Kenward <garykenward at ieee.org<mailto:garykenward at ieee.org>>
Date: Thursday, November 7, 2013 5:12 PM
To: Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com<mailto:veni at veni.com>>
Cc: Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Nicaragua's internet is in trouble

I do not know the full extent of the situation in Nicaragua. Simply from face value, I would suggest that a nation taking control over information flow for the purposes of protecting the privacy of their citizens is a positive move. And I would expect to see this practice become more common.

Clearly, such regulatory action is open for abuse. However, so is the unfettered flow of information outside of a nations borders.


It is my understanding that when the USA introduced the Patriot Act, the Canadian government issues a directive to all federal government organizations to ensure that all electronic data was transported and stored within our national borders.  I believe that the provincial organizations followed suit.

The rationale was simply to ensure protection of all private information managed by federal government organizations.

In my view, they did not go far enough. It is a frequently stated view that Canada's privacy regulations regarding electronic information are not strong enough. Commercial and consumer traffic are frequently routed through the US and many (but not all) application service providers use US based data warehousing. This should be stopped or at least mitigated.

Canadian's have a different view of privacy versus security from US citizens. While keeping electronic data within national borders does not provide 100% protection (nothing really can), it does goes a long way to ensure that privacy is protected by Canadian law (and what little International law applies).

Gary

On 2013.11.07, at 7:49 AM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com<mailto:veni at veni.com>> wrote:

It looks like many countries are trying to do similar stuff, but are using different arguments to explain why.
Alejandro, from what you say, it looks almost that the credit card companies (MasterCard, Visa) will stop offer their products in Nicaragua, as they would hardly agree to keep data bases there.

v.


On 11/07/13 01:01, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:

Hi Elver,

I just went through the text for the whole new Constitution of Nicaragua, prompted by your note from a few hours ago.

It definitely does include (in article 92) provisions for databases hat must stay in the territory and spectrum that must stay in the state's control.

It is not absolutely clear to me whether this is for all databases or only those belonging to the Army, or pertaining to national security, because of the article in which these provisions are stated.

At any rate indirect information and opinions I heard as recently as two days ago from expert visitors to Nicaragua, things are indeed dire.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] Nicaragua's internet is in trouble

Hi everyone,

Just got pinged by friends in Nicaragua that their government is
planning constitutional reforms to take control of the internet:
http://www-ni.laprensa.com.ni/2013/11/06/ambito/168983-telcor-redes-sociales-hay

If someone on this list is in the area, or familiar with the
situation, please provide further information and, if it's serious,
please beat some sense into these legislators. (Feel free to forward
this email to relevant parties.)

Should it really be as bad as the article makes it sound, it would
make sense for the ISOC regional HQ to send their own delegation to
meet the government.

Best,
Elver
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