[Chapter-delegates] Our German colleagues on "national Internets"

[Amir Qayyum]

Quite a fact.
+1

Amir
ISOC Islamabad Chapter

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:45 AM, info at isoc.org.ec <info at isoc.org.ec> wrote:
> It's better to start our own spy and counter spy strategy. No matter what measures (tech, legal, etc) you take, You always, ALWAYS, will be a target if need to be one in the mind of your friends or enemies.
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>> El 01/11/2013, a las 12:49, Christian de Larrinaga <cdel at firsthand.net> escribió:
>>
>> Isn't Hans Peter arguing that using legislation to filter traffic is the
>> bad idea. I don't read him as saying networks should not make their own
>> routing decisions?
>>
>> Maybe Hans Peter can explain further himself?
>>
>> At the moment most routing decisions are pretty opaque. I heard some
>> complaints that UK broadband networks are playing silly games with each
>> other.  We saw similar in the US over recent years.
>>
>> The Internet has an emergent architecture so every time we deploy or
>> configure or filter a protocol we are shaping that architecture in
>> practice. Code is law as Lessig would say ... well  so I add .. is the
>> configuration file.
>>
>> C
>>> Dave Burstein <mailto:daveb at dslprime.com>
>>> 1 November 2013 02:47
>>> Hans Peter Dittler of ISOC.de posted the below note, urging that
>>> national security issues be kept apart from Int
>>
>>> ernet routing. Many engineers think this is a good way to protect the
>>> Internet. It certainly would be a pain in the butt to make necessary
>>> changes to routing tables, etc, especially in the developed world.
>>>
>>>   Others believe security is crucial and that a nation should be
>>> allowed, for example, to request their packets not be sent via a link
>>> they believe is tapped. This was a major debate at WCIT.
>>>
>>>    My personal take is that if Egypt, for example, thinks a foreign
>>> power is tapping the fiber from France to Italy - as Le Monde suggests
>>> is the case - it's reasonable to request the ISPs serving Egypt to
>>> route French-Egyptian traffic through North Africa instead. Renesas
>>> reported that Google switched Brazil DNS traffic to routing outside
>>> the country recently.
>>>   I'm forwarding this to the list because it's important and highly
>>> controversial. In particular, I'd welcome comments on what would be
>>> the practical cost of a nation with a limited number of international
>>> gateways - most of the less developed world - requested their gateway
>>> providers to avoid routes they believed were intercepted. My guess is
>>
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