[Chapter-delegates] NEWS RELEASE: ITU World Telecommunication Policy Forum Closes Focused on Continuing Open Dialogue

Carlos M. Martinez carlosmarcelomartinez at gmail.com
Sat May 18 09:47:42 PDT 2013


My comment was against nurturing opinions out of press releases, be them
ISOC or anyone elses. And this is an ISOC ML, I also mentioned the
reports they will be making.

Other sources will also be useful.

regards

Carlos

On 5/18/13 2:54 AM, Saskia Kiisel wrote:
> If you are saying that only and only ISOC materials about the topic
> are relevant (and I'm not saying that it isn't trustworthy enough nor
> that ISOC somehow lies!), than I disagree. 
>
> Sorry, but were all of my links press releases? No. If you click on
> them, you can see that one was from _American Society of International
> Law_ (that short (I gave intentionally short ones, because everyone
> don't have the time to read 300 pages long and complicated law texts)
> analyze is one of the best ones (IF you are saying that i'm
> "itu-phobic" then I'm not, but i believe that the truth lies somewhere
> in the middle), BUT yes, it's not the whole story). 
> Other link is from the international institute for strategic studies,
> which is a _world-leading authority_ on global security, political
> risk and military conflict. Another from Center for a New American
> Security, which mission "... is to develop strong, pragmatic and
> principled national security and defense policies._Building on the
> expertise and experience of its staff and advisors_, CNAS engages
> policymakers, experts and the public with innovative,_fact-based
> research_, ideas and analysis to shape and elevate the national
> security debate. A key part of our mission is to inform and prepare
> the national security leaders of today and tomorrow."
>
> Other three links are more easier to read, but says more or less the
> same thing. 
>
> I just finished my university's thesis about the ITU topic ("Internet
> governance as an example of efficiency of Decision-making process of
> The International Telecommunication Union") and I read many different
> views. What I learned about the way? That we can't get an agreement if
> we can't agree on the basics, on the terms and what they mean. I chose
> Wolfgang Kleinwächter, because he has worked on that field about 20
> years, and because his approach is narrower (including elements that
> all are agreeing on - domain name, IP-addresses and root server
> management) and because in my opinion he is internationally respected
> professor.
>
> These links are saying more or less the same things that ISOC are. But
> somewhat more humanly readable ways. It is better to have more sources
> saying the same thing than just one. 
>
>
> 2013/5/18 GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW <md at gambian.com <mailto:md at gambian.com>>
>
>     Very informative Saskia,
>     Much appreciated.
>
>     Gabriel
>
>     On May 17, 2013, at 7:31 PM, Saskia Kiisel wrote:
>
>>     Hello everyone!
>>
>>     People who aren't informed about internet governance situation, I
>>     leave here some articles, that might clear it for you.
>>
>>     Analyze about the WCIT-12 (World Conference on International
>>     Telecommunications, Dubai 2012):
>>     http://www.asil.org/pdfs/insights/insight130207.pdf
>>     http://www.iiss.org/publications/strategic-comments/past-issues/volume-18-2012/december/internets-future-on-the-agenda-at-dubai-meeting/
>>     http://www.cnas.org/theinternetyalta 
>>
>>     Some explaining articles:
>>     http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121217_wcit_and_internet_governance_harmless_resolution_or_trojan_horse/
>>     http://news.dot-nxt.com/2012/12/14/highlights-and-low-points-wcit
>>     http://news.dot-nxt.com/2012/12/06/wcit-and-internet-it-all-comes
>>
>>     And because there are many different understanding about the
>>     internet governance, then here is one of the versions of
>>     Kleinwächters (who in my opinion is the closest for defining
>>     it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1azN6E4CI (also explains a
>>     little bit of internet governance history).
>>
>>     Why I'm talking about WCIT-12 and not WTPF? - Well, to understand
>>     WTPF it is good to know the pre-story for that. 
>>
>>     All the best,
>>
>>
>>     2013/5/17 Grace Chng <grace.chng1 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:grace.chng1 at gmail.com>>
>>
>>         I agree.
>>
>>         Sent from my iPad
>>
>>         On 17 May, 2013, at 5:27 AM, Elver Loho <elver.loho at gmail.com
>>         <mailto:elver.loho at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         > I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but could we have
>>         human-language
>>         > summaries of press releases in the future? From what I can
>>         decipher,
>>         > governments want more control over the internet, we don't,
>>         we won this
>>         > time, but we have to continue the fight. Right?
>>         >
>>         > It took me, like, fifteen minutes to figure this out and I
>>         gotta get
>>         > up in seven hours to go on live radio to talk about
>>         e-voting security
>>         > after a local Pirate Party activist stole a public computer
>>         from the
>>         > parliament building hoping to uncover secret documents
>>         proving that
>>         > e-voting is rigged and then three weeks later walked into a
>>         newspaper
>>         > office with it, having not found anything, and is now
>>         missing and
>>         > wanted by the police, with the computer, and the Pirate
>>         Party refuses
>>         > to kick him out.
>>         >
>>         > Here's a photo of him with the famous computer:
>>         > http://boards.chan.ee/b/src/1368653567180.jpg
>>         >
>>         > Anyway, it would save me some time in the future.
>>         >
>>         > And my actual point is that if we want to engage people,
>>         then we need
>>         > to communicate in a way that people understand. Considering
>>         that
>>         > English is not the native language of the vast majority of
>>         us, this is
>>         > doubly important.
>>         >
>>         > Best,
>>         > Elver
>>         >
>>         > elver.loho at gmail.com <mailto:elver.loho at gmail.com>
>>         > +372 5661 6933 <tel:%2B372%205661%206933>
>>         > skype: elver.loho
>>         >
>>         > On 16 May 2013 23:56, Wende Cover <cover at isoc.org
>>         <mailto:cover at isoc.org>> wrote:
>>         >> ITU World Telecommunication Policy Forum Closes Focused on
>>         Continuing Open
>>         >> Dialogue
>>         >>
>>         >> [Geneva, Switzerland - 16 May 2013] -- Today, the World
>>         Telecommunication
>>         >> Policy Forum (WTPF) came to a close with robust debate
>>         among all
>>         >> stakeholders about the role of government in Internet
>>         governance.
>>         >> Throughout the meeting, the Internet Society participated
>>         in dialogue that
>>         >> focused on several key areas, including the significant
>>         role of Internet
>>         >> exchange points as a means of enhancing Internet
>>         connectivity, the need for
>>         >> timely deployment of IPv6, and the importance of the
>>         multi-stakeholder model
>>         >> of Internet governance.
>>         >>
>>         >> Six opinions were drafted by a WTPF Informal Experts Group
>>         and submitted to
>>         >> the meeting, addressing topics such as capacity building,
>>         IP addressing, and
>>         >> Internet governance.  These Opinions were discussed among
>>         all participants:
>>         >> ITU member states and sector members, civil society
>>         organizations, and other
>>         >> key international stakeholders. The inclusion of
>>         stakeholders assisted in
>>         >> broadening the discussion to allow for a more inclusive
>>         dialogue.  As a
>>         >> result, a vigorous debate related to the role of
>>         governments in the
>>         >> multi-stakeholder model exhibited the importance of
>>         continued discussions in
>>         >> a variety of fora.
>>         >>
>>         >> "This week's dialogue was a significant step forward,"
>>         said Lynn St. Amour,
>>         >> Internet Society President and Chief Executive Officer.
>>          "We know that the
>>         >> multi-stakeholder model has served the Internet and
>>         individuals across the
>>         >> world extraordinarily well, leading to innovations and
>>         infrastructure
>>         >> development that may not have come about with a top-down
>>         model. We welcome
>>         >> this open dialogue and hope these discussions continue
>>         over the coming
>>         >> months at forums such as the Commission on Science and
>>         Technology for
>>         >> Development and the Internet Governance Forum in order
>>         that all voices are
>>         >> heard."
>>         >>
>>         >> The Internet Society is a global, nonprofit organization
>>         dedicated to an
>>         >> open Internet for everyone. The Internet Society is a
>>         strong advocate of the
>>         >> multi-stakeholder model of Internet governance because it
>>         is the heart of
>>         >> the Internet's architectural foundation and has proven to
>>         be the best way to
>>         >> ensure that the benefits of the Internet are available to
>>         all.  Experience
>>         >> shows that public policy processes that draw from a base
>>         of community
>>         >> expertise are most effective in creating the environment
>>         in which Internet
>>         >> development and access can flourish.
>>         >>
>>         >> To read the Internet Society submission to the WTPF, visit:
>>         >>
>>         http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/contribution-itu-2013-world-telecommunicationict-policy-forum.
>>         >>
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