[Chapter-delegates] ISOC Bylaws Working Group (BLWG)

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This confusion is down to fact that ISOC members are not members in the sense of having governance responsibilities or role in ISOC. They are members in the sense of being members of a mail list plus stuff. 

AS ISOC does not give members a vote so no chapter is obliged to either.  Of course when I and others on this list set up chapters in mid to late 90s ISOC did have paying vote wielding members and chapters followed suit. But since members lost the vote at ISOC this forced some changes In now best to manage the ISOC chapter membership by the chapter. 

Christian de Larrinaga


On 8 May 2013, at 00:27, Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com> wrote:

> Veni,
> it is impossible. Otherwise ISOC.AM will not be an ISOC Chapter -
> according to ISOC global bylaws. If we shall have our by laws, different
> form ISOC global bylaws, we shall be an independent  structure, not ISOC
> Chapter. But we have our bylaws - according to the local law, and we do
> not ask for our members to register themselves in ISOC Global as a members.
> I think this contradiction is necessary to resolve.
> Grigori Sahyhan
> ISOC.AM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 08.05.2013 2:46, Veni Markovski wrote:
>> That's up to you to figure it out in your by-laws. 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Grigori Saghyan wrote:
>> 
>>    Veni,
>>    if Chapters are independent, legal (or not), why Chapter members at
>>    first, as a per-condition, have  to register themselves (or with local
>>    Chapter management assistance) on ISOC Global IMS as a member ?
>>    Grigori Saghyan
>>    ISOC.AM <http://ISOC.AM>
>> 
>>    On 08.05.2013 2:27, Veni Markovski wrote:
>>> Grisha,
>>> That's an easy one: they are independent legal (or not) bodies. They
>>> can't be anything else.
>>> 
>>> On Tuesday, May 7, 2013, Grigori Saghyan wrote:
>>> 
>>>    This a the main question -who are ISOC Chapters?
>>>    Branches? Subsidiaries?  Daughter  companies of ISOC Global?
>>    Something
>>>    flexible? Independent organizations according to the local laws?
>>>    Grigori Saghyan
>>>    ISOC.AM <http://ISOC.AM> <http://ISOC.AM>
>>> 
>>>    On 08.05.2013 1:52, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
>>>> So how are we defined
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    --
>>>    Grigori Saghyan
>>>    PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Best,
>>> Veni
>>> http://veni.com
>>> https://facebook.com/venimarkovski
>>> https://twitter.com/veni
>>> 
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>>> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
>>> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
>> 
>> 
>>    --
>>    Grigori Saghyan
>>    PGP Key ID: 0x48E4D5DC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best,
>> Veni
>> http://veni.com
>> https://facebook.com/venimarkovski
>> https://twitter.com/veni
>> 
>> ***
>> The opinions expressed above are those of
>> the author, not of any organizations,
>> associated with or related to him in
>> any given way.
>> ***
>> 
>> 
>> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
>> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Grigori Saghyan
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